dgbrown Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 I'm looking for recommendations and options on any steps I can take to guard against power co surges and effects of lightening. We had a pretty severe electrical storm on Monday. Knocked out the battery power pack for FIOS (they're coming tomorrow), a switch powered by POE, a couple of baluns, two older C4 dimmers and two C4 switches (controlling ceiling fans), and last but not least, the LV valve relays (read no hot water).This last piece was problematic as I replaced the ARGO unit with a TACO because hat was what was in stock - I'm now sorting through some C4 TStat power issues.Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFUG Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 I have a few Leviton TVSSs. Installation of these is exact and I've seen a few installs where you might as well have burned the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebery Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 I also have the Leviton units (I think 51100 series) I had them installed when we built 5 years ago. Even with them I have had some stuff knocked out. Mainly Tripplite UPS systems. I have a question:Do these units need to be replaced after a while? I assume the suppression weakens after numerous surges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbrown Posted June 29, 2012 Author Share Posted June 29, 2012 Was just looking at these: http://www.surgepack.com/transtrack-lp.htmLooks like they're installed at the subpanel to a 30amp breaker. Does the Leviton product install at the mains ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFUG Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Was just looking at these: http://www.surgepack.com/transtrack-lp.htmLooks like they're installed at the subpanel to a 30amp breaker. Does the Leviton product install at the mains ?Depends on the model. But the plan should include both mains and site installs. Remember, transients could come from your own infrastructure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFUG Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 I also have the Leviton units (I think 51100 series) I had them installed when we built 5 years ago. Even with them I have had some stuff knocked out. Mainly Tripplite UPS systems. I have a question:Do these units need to be replaced after a while? I assume the suppression weakens after numerous surges.Yes and no. MOVS will take-on surges until the go open (or closed and blow the fuse). I use MOV-based panels with hit counters. SADs, to my understanding, may not need replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbrown Posted June 29, 2012 Author Share Posted June 29, 2012 Just posting a link to a doc I came across in case anyone else is interested: http://www.lightningsafety.com/nlsi_lhm/IEEE_Guide.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFUG Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Yep, lots of info on the internet. Here's another-http://www.lepstech.com/en/pdf/Transient-source.pdfThat's theory though. If you install, there is a whole other realm of info you need to be aware of. Maybe your electrician knows, maybe they don't. Do you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasBill Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 I'm looking for recommendations and options on any steps I can take to guard against power co surges and effects of lightening. We had a pretty severe electrical storm on Monday. Knocked out the battery power pack for FIOS (they're coming tomorrow), a switch powered by POE, a couple of baluns, two older C4 dimmers and two C4 switches (controlling ceiling fans), and last but not least, the LV valve relays (read no hot water).This last piece was problematic as I replaced the ARGO unit with a TACO because hat was what was in stock - I'm now sorting through some C4 TStat power issues.Thanks in advance.I placed a whole house surge supression on the house for a relatively small amount of money - I honestly don't remember the price - but it was not horribly expensive.I have not had any issues even though neighbors have and even though I have a Honda generator that kicks on automatically when we lose power and we have several times since we moved in.It is called Square D by Schneider Electricwww.schneider-electric.comI have the SDSB1175R Series 2 model.Direct link to my model:http://surgelogic.com/home/products/externally-mounted/whole-house.htmlHere is a listing of other models that they make for residential situations:http://efinet.com/home/solutions/residential/Here is a picture of the unit: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 sycom makes some reasonably priced options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookedOnC4 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 I'm looking for recommendations and options on any steps I can take to guard against power co surges and effects of lightening. We had a pretty severe electrical storm on Monday. Knocked out the battery power pack for FIOS (they're coming tomorrow), a switch powered by POE, a couple of baluns, two older C4 dimmers and two C4 switches (controlling ceiling fans), and last but not least, the LV valve relays (read no hot water).This last piece was problematic as I replaced the ARGO unit with a TACO because hat was what was in stock - I'm now sorting through some C4 TStat power issues.Thanks in advance.I have surge protection on my meter from Duke energy and it works plus if anything gets damaged they pay $1000 up to 10 times but if I get hit by lighting ten times I am moving I think the insurance is $2 a month...Lighting hit in front of my neighbors house and I mean it was bad.He lost everything... Garage door openers, tv's etc. My house was fine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasBill Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 I'm looking for recommendations and options on any steps I can take to guard against power co surges and effects of lightening. We had a pretty severe electrical storm on Monday. Knocked out the battery power pack for FIOS (they're coming tomorrow)' date=' a switch powered by POE, a couple of baluns, two older C4 dimmers and two C4 switches (controlling ceiling fans), and last but not least, the LV valve relays (read no hot water).This last piece was problematic as I replaced the ARGO unit with a TACO because hat was what was in stock - I'm now sorting through some C4 TStat power issues.Thanks in advance.[/quote']I have surge protection on my meter from Duke energy and it works plus if anything gets damaged they pay $1000 up to 10 times but if I get hit by lighting ten times I am moving I think the insurance is $2 a month...Lighting hit in front of my neighbors house and I mean it was bad.He lost everything... Garage door openers, tv's etc. My house was fine...That insurance is better than what my company does on my surge protector - they are 5 years and $50,000.00.I can for an additional $10.00 a month purchase surge suppression INSURANCE from my electric company that covers I think$2,000.00 worth of no deductible insurance - but they have no hardware that they put on the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookedOnC4 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Just type in Duke Energy strike stop and you can read about it. I think it's a great deal...If they are in your area... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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