niebais Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Ok, I've been at this for a while now. I don't know what I'm missing. I have an HC-800 controller and I have a 2 button switch that I wired up. I connected the switch to my control 4 system, but it doesn't turn on the lights! What am I doing wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharmdsmith Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Does the switch work manually when you press it on/off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFUG Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 At least it's not another "I can't turn the lights off" episode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Is it a SWITCH, or is it a TWO BUTTON KEYPAD.They're very different products. One of them will turn the light on/off no matter, and the other will not control the load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niebais Posted June 4, 2012 Author Share Posted June 4, 2012 At least it's not another "I can't turn the lights off" episode lol - yeah that would have been a fun thread to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niebais Posted June 4, 2012 Author Share Posted June 4, 2012 Does the switch work manually when you press it on/off?No it doesn't for me. It just stays off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niebais Posted June 4, 2012 Author Share Posted June 4, 2012 Is it a SWITCH, or is it a TWO BUTTON KEYPAD.They're very different products. One of them will turn the light on/off no matter, and the other will not control the load.It is a two button keypad. When you say it won't control the load, do I need to change it our for a wireless dimmer or something? I have those as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niebais Posted June 4, 2012 Author Share Posted June 4, 2012 So I guess I'm just confused at the difference between a wireless dimmer, a switch, and a two button keypad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormwatch Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Dimmer - can dim light - install where you want To be able to dim Lights. Switch - works like normal switch on/off. Install in any switches you want control Over. 2 button - can be programmed to control any of your switches and dimmers. Also required for three way switch locations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Yeah, stormwatch pretty much covered it.2 button keypads cannot control a load. When you wired it up, didn't you notice there were too many wires in the box? Put a dimmer or switch in it's place, and then you will have enough wires to wire up the light fixture, and it will work.Keypads don't control loads...they just look like switches, and are typically used in scenarios where you have more than one "switch" that controls a load. When converted to C4, one becomes the actual "switch", and the others are just bound to the switch via programming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niebais Posted June 4, 2012 Author Share Posted June 4, 2012 Ok, thanks for the information. I read through the manual and it seems like the blue wire is for the "traveler" wire so that the two button switches or 6, whatever, can work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Ok, thanks for the information. I read through the manual and it seems like the blue wire is for the "traveler" wire so that the two button switches or 6, whatever, can work.Don't use the blue wire. Just wire it up hot.The blue wire is a huge PITA, with no benefit. You're already going to have a hard time stuffing all those wirenuts in the box if you leave the blue wire alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashmoney Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Yea, what is the point of the blue wire? Why is a single traveler hooked up, don't really get it...Obviously I understand how a 3-way switch works but its my understanding that the only way the keypad works is through programming. If that is the case why is there a traveler on the dimmer and on the keypad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 To send power to the keypad location, if I recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashmoney Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Nope it gets power from the hot and neutral you connect to it.Unless I'm missing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I had to go back to the manual since I havent had to use it yet but here you go:"IMPORTANT! The Blue wire is not a traditional traveler: It cannot directly power a lighting load. It must only be used to provide power to another Control4 keypad. If you do not intend to use this wire, leave it capped. The blue wire is a "switched hot" wire that is connected internally to the dimmer's hot wire through the air-gap switch. Power is applied to the blue wire whenever the air-gap switch is closed. Thus, the blue wire is used to provide power to downstream keypads in 3-way/4-way scenarios in order to ensure that all power to the load has been removed when the air-gap switch is open. See "Sample Wiring Configurations." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashmoney Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Interesting, thanks! I've got installation manual for the keypad and didn't notice this, I guess I need to pay more attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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