akg4y Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 What exactly is the difference between the 2 button and the switch? Can they be used interchangeably? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 The 2-button is a keypad, it has no functionality to switch a load.The switch is just that, it's a switch that controls a load. Typically Fluorescent or a fan, which cannot be controlled with a dimmer.They aren't directly interchangeable, because one of them has 'provider' bindings, the other has 'consumer' bindings. Sort of like one is a socket and the other a plug. When you setup a 3-way connection in the software, the 2-button keypad (or multiple of them) can connect to a dimmer or a switch and control it, but a dimmer or a switch can't directly take the place of the 2-button.You can make it work, by manually programming the button press and release for each button, and manually programming the LEDs to follow the dimmer/switch LEDs, but it's more work.RyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akg4y Posted December 12, 2008 Author Share Posted December 12, 2008 I guess the question I have regarding this is how do you install a 2, 3, or 6 button then? Does it have to be on the other end of a 3-way with a dimmer/switch in order to work?For example in my nursery I have a regular non-C4 switch for a light. If I want to put in a 6 button there I couldnt just take out the switch and put in a 6-button with 2 of the buttons controlling the light and the other 4 buttons doing other random things, could I? If I cant do that, then how do I install a 6 button without taking out something else, do I just have to add a new single gang box? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henniae Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 I guess the question I have regarding this is how do you install a 2, 3, or 6 button then? Does it have to be on the other end of a 3-way with a dimmer/switch in order to work?For example in my nursery I have a regular non-C4 switch for a light. If I want to put in a 6 button there I couldnt just take out the switch and put in a 6-button with 2 of the buttons controlling the light and the other 4 buttons doing other random things, could I? If I cant do that, then how do I install a 6 button without taking out something else, do I just have to add a new single gang box?The 6 button does not have the ability to have the light wired to it so you can't just remove the non-C4 switch. You would need to replace the non-C4 switch with a C4 dimmer or C4 switch.If you want to install a 6 button (or 3 or 2 button) you would have to make room to install it in the electrical box in your wall.You must either remove something or have a larger box installed. I have cut out many electrical boxes so I can install a bigger box for a keypad, it is a pain and a lot of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c44me Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Ive just added a single gang box next to my existing switches. much easier then taking everything out to enlarge and replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henniae Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Ive just added a single gang box next to my existing switches. much easier then taking everything out to enlarge and replace.That is also an option. I just think it looks better if you make the box bigger as opposed to a secondary box right next to an existing box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c44me Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Ive just added a single gang box next to my existing switches. much easier then taking everything out to enlarge and replace.That is also an option. I just think it looks better if you make the box bigger as opposed to a secondary box right next to an existing box.agreed assuming you are on the receiving end of the payment and/or have time and have the room between studs etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbs Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 This is a good time to bring up my number one most desired Control4 product. More importantly, it's the product that would make C4 the most easily retrofittable system imaginable. There's a thread on it here:http://www.c4forums.com/viewtopic.php?id=1312but in a nutshell it would be a load-controlling switch or dinner with additional keypad buttons on it. That way, you could replace a switch (either C4 or non-C4) and add keypad functionality without having to cut more holes in the drywall.--Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akg4y Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 That would definitely be most helpful... In the meantime, I have one other option. If I have a single switch controlling a wall outlet (for something like a table lamp in a bedroom) would it be easy enough to have an electrician take out that switch, make it so the outlet is permanently on, and put a 3-button in the place where the switch was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajbarrister Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 This is exactly what we did. Each bedroom had a switch by the door that controled the top potlet of all of the wall outlets in the bedrooms. I hated this. When we put in our system we has our dealer make the outlets hot all the time and install a 3 button for the room. See the attached pic. We are in the process of adding 30 more switches, 35 more dimmers and 5 3 buttons, All the beadrooms will now have at least one 3 button by the door. It can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akg4y Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 Perfect, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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