rf9000 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 All, I'm putting a very large mirror in the Master bath with behind mirror LED lighting on the top and bottom. I would like these LEDs to automatically dim ramp on when someone enters the room. I have installed a small SPY motion sensor in the toe kick of the vanity, about 6" inside the entry walkway, so basically the first step into the room will trigger it. This motion sensor wire is ran about 125' to the control room. Inside the vanity, there is a regular AC outlet where, a C4 outlet dimmer will be plugged in. Into this outlet dimmer the transformer for the LED lights will be plugged in. So, when someone walks into the room, it triggers the motion, which then is programmed to trigger the outlet dimmer to dim on the transformer. Is this the best way to do this? I'm just wondering if there will be any delay because the control room is 125' away? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rf9000 Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share Posted January 18, 2021 Nobody on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 There shouldn't be a noticable delay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rf9000 Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share Posted January 18, 2021 25 minutes ago, msgreenf said: There shouldn't be a noticable delay Great. You have any suggestions for any small flush mount motion detectors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Not really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rf9000 Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share Posted January 18, 2021 15 minutes ago, msgreenf said: Not really Is what I'm doing, not commonly done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Its a fine way to do it. I just don't know wired motions that would be flush mount. You can use anything since it's wiring into a relay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lippavisual Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I'd use something more like these beam sensors: https://www.surveillance-video.com/security-e-932-d33tbq.html?gclid=CjwKCAiAgJWABhArEiwAmNVTB_4exrVKlQ9m2g4JsVEuYAlwMlB6d2W_Epq5aTCA6m4WfrZircXZ4hoCrWUQAvD_BwE They also make some that only have a 3/4" hole for the sensor as long as there's room behind to install the device. You'd be looking at around a 30ms roundtrip to turn your lights on, so pretty darn quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rf9000 Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share Posted January 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, lippavisual said: I'd use something more like these beam sensors: https://www.surveillance-video.com/security-e-932-d33tbq.html?gclid=CjwKCAiAgJWABhArEiwAmNVTB_4exrVKlQ9m2g4JsVEuYAlwMlB6d2W_Epq5aTCA6m4WfrZircXZ4hoCrWUQAvD_BwE They also make some that only have a 3/4" hole for the sensor as long as there's room behind to install the device. You'd be looking at around a 30ms roundtrip to turn your lights on, so pretty darn quick. Im actually using something like this mounted in the toe kick of the vanity https://www.123securityproducts.com/spy-4.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rf9000 Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share Posted January 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, lippavisual said: I'd use something more like these beam sensors: https://www.surveillance-video.com/security-e-932-d33tbq.html?gclid=CjwKCAiAgJWABhArEiwAmNVTB_4exrVKlQ9m2g4JsVEuYAlwMlB6d2W_Epq5aTCA6m4WfrZircXZ4hoCrWUQAvD_BwE They also make some that only have a 3/4" hole for the sensor as long as there's room behind to install the device. You'd be looking at around a 30ms roundtrip to turn your lights on, so pretty darn quick. Do you think what I listed will work good, or should it be more like a beam sensor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lippavisual Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Personally, I'd rather the beam. But what you linked should work. Note that being installed in the toekick, you're already cutting the sensors spread in half (installed close to the floor). Depending on how much overhang above where this motion would be, you could also cut off spread there as well. Should work though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, lippavisual said: Personally, I'd rather the beam. But what you linked should work. Note that being installed in the toekick, you're already cutting the sensors spread in half (installed close to the floor). Depending on how much overhang above where this motion would be, you could also cut off spread there as well. Should work though. isn't that what you want to keep it focused? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lippavisual Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 30 minutes ago, msgreenf said: isn't that what you want to keep it focused? Well, if you want focused triggering, the beam sensor would work better IMO. Especially, if you add a second set so you can track coming and going. Would allow much more detailed and controlled programming. Like "walking IN", all lights stay on. Then "walking OUT", shut all lights, music, etc. off. Like I said though, what he wants to use should work with minimal trial and error (ie: adjusting sensitivity). msgreenf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rf9000 Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 8 hours ago, lippavisual said: Well, if you want focused triggering, the beam sensor would work better IMO. Especially, if you add a second set so you can track coming and going. Would allow much more detailed and controlled programming. Like "walking IN", all lights stay on. Then "walking OUT", shut all lights, music, etc. off. Like I said though, what he wants to use should work with minimal trial and error (ie: adjusting sensitivity). Thanks. But in my situation I would actually prefer a timed situation. I wouldn’t want the music, lights, etc to turn off every time I walked out. The closet is right next to the bath but it’s in the master hallway adjoining the two and the bedroom where you have to leave the master bath and go down the hallway to get to the closet. It would get annoying if while getting ready everything kept turning off and on when walking back and forth, especially with two people. I would just set it to turn off if no motion is detected in let’s say five minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rf9000 Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 On 1/18/2021 at 10:57 AM, msgreenf said: isn't that what you want to keep it focused? Morning. So if I'm wanting to have these LED lights ramp up when turning on, can I use a LOZ-5D1-x dimmer outlet to plug the LED transformer into? Or do I have to use one of the newer C4-V-ODIM120 outlet dimmers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 are your LED strips cable of dimming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rf9000 Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, msgreenf said: are your LED strips cable of dimming? Yes they are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rf9000 Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 40 minutes ago, msgreenf said: are your LED strips cable of dimming? So just wondering if the old outlet dimmer would work with the LED transformer, or if I need the newer style? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 I think you will need the new one. But I can't say for certain as it will depend on the led transformer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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