dgbrown Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 http://www.control4.com/news/120/44/Baldwin-Presents-Premium-Hardware-with-Home-Connect/Excerpt from press release: The set also features one-touch locking and two customizable access codes—one for family, one for temporary access. Other features include a backlit keypad, incorrect code lockout, automatic door locking, audible signal for activation, lock/unlock LED indicator, and low battery indicator. Baldwin’s Keyless Entry with Home Connect™ is easy to install in a standard door, and no hard wiring is required.Baldwin is offering two keyless entry styles: the contemporary Soho and the more traditional or rustic Boulder. Each comes in four finishes to coordinate with any home style and, unique to the segment, Baldwin is offering both sectional and 3/4 escutcheon handlesets with the locks. All styles are available now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Msrp = $599! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neildilgee Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Msrp = $599!You're kinding hey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Nope...I wish I was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neildilgee Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 What! But this is more expensive than the B&D. Which have more features and over 30 prog codes.. Please tell tell me there's'a multifuctional blowup doll hidden in that lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 These look much better, and I think you can get them without the keypad. I want one for my front door if that is the case. The keypad is fugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neildilgee Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 These look much better, and I think you can get them without the keypad. I want one for my front door if that is the case. The keypad is fugly.On C4 site they dont have a pic of it, Do you have a link. ( Pls dont send me that let me google, it's'wearing of now) If it has no keypad, do you use a remote or biometrix.And finaly, if you think its better then sell your B&D to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 I think this is the link: http://www.baldwinhardware.com/access_control.aspx?nav=1_143http://www.baldwinhardware.com/access_control_detail.aspx?nav=1_143Hopefully the cost will come down if that msrp is that high! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 I'm not selling my B&D locks Neil...LOL.I have them on doors where appearance isn't a big deal.I'm not interested in putting a keypad on my beautiful 99 inch tall front entry door...that's all.Ideally it would lock like a normal deadbolt, but have the ability to be unlocked via zigbee. This would be ideal for when someone rings the doorbell, you communicate to them via intercom, you determine it is a friend, you say "come on in, we're in the basement". You setup a custom button to unlock the door, then re-lock it after it's been closed. No need for keypad entry or anything like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well_armed Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 I got a quote from a Baldwin lock dealer for $328...so that is of course the sucker price.I already have all baldwin locks in my house so I am putting these in and having one key for the whole house. Otherwise I would do kwikset/B&D locks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neildilgee Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Just for interess sake, what is the B&D going for these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 $349 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neildilgee Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 $349i think the best thing about the B&D is still that you can prog more access codes by which your house can bassicaly know who got home ,at what time and do some programming around the person that got home.I'm still wondering which one would be better for bad weather conditions coz i need one but it would be completly covered for the rain and i live next to the sea. ( salty air ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 I would be surprised if the Baldwin only supported 2 codes, I think that text is copied from the original lock type, like the B&D, where you can manually set 2 codes by pressing buttons on the lock.I suspect the Baldwin (although I have not asked about it to confirm) also supports 30 codes for Control4 integration.RyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neildilgee Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 I would be surprised if the Baldwin only supported 2 codes, I think that text is copied from the original lock type, like the B&D, where you can manually set 2 codes by pressing buttons on the lock.I suspect the Baldwin (although I have not asked about it to confirm) also supports 30 codes for Control4 integration.RyanEI haven't read anything as such no where Ryan but can anyone confirm this to 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 I noticed on the PDF doc 'Keyless Entry...' from the link above that it says "Full 128-Bit encryption security". Is this a mistake?I thought these were zigbee operated. If they have wireless operation I suppose it means they could be 'hacked'.Edit - I've had a further look and I can't see anything that suggests IP controlled, so I'm not sure what the encryption statement is all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharmdsmith Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 This is part of the books open announcement. Product Features:Innovative SecurityKeyless entry deadbolt - the ultimate in convenience and securityFully automated motorized deadboltRevolutionary tapered latch designZigBee Pro wireless protocol - full 128-bit encryption securityUp to 30 customizable user access codesAlarm sounds and keypad shuts down after three (3) consecutive incorrect codesOne-touch lockingAudio-visual "low battery" indicators4 to 8 digit codesEasy IntegrationIntegrates to update manager to allow deadbolt firmware to be updated seamlesslyInstalls in minutes with just a screwdriverReplaces existing deadbolt - no new door preparation required with a standard door prep fitTapered deadbolt designProtected coated keypad preventing wear & discoloration4 AA batteries (no hard wiring)Fits standard door prepBack-lit keypad for increased visibilityLow battery led indicatorCustomizable FeaturesAutomatic door locking after 30 secondsDoor locked/unlocked blinking light indicatorAudible beep when pressing buttonsAdd unique programming around the lock and unlock eventProduct: Baldwin Home Connect ZigBee Deadbolt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 It is exactly like the B&D lock...after all they're the same company.Will any of the dealers out there confirm or deny what I stated MSRP was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdvr Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Dan,Depending on the finish you are in the Ballpark for the lock only. If you want the 3/4 lever you must add more to the msrp if you want the seperate lever that is another price.Some finishes are kept in stock and some are special order only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neildilgee Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 $349i think the best thing about the B&D is still that you can prog more access codes by which your house can bassicaly know who got home ' date='at what time and do some programming around the person that got home.I'm still wondering which one would be better for bad weather conditions coz i need one but it would be completly covered for the rain and i live next to the sea. ( salty air )[/quote']Can anyone comment on the weatherproof issue, I've had biometric Bioaxis deadlock for more than a year now and it's been copping quite well.It also takes up to 30 different finger prints but I would like to replace it with one of these locks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Dan,Depending on the finish you are in the Ballpark for the lock only. If you want the 3/4 lever you must add more to the msrp if you want the seperate lever that is another price.Some finishes are kept in stock and some are special order only.Told you guys.Looks like $599 is for the lock only.Needless to say I won't be buying one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well_armed Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Baldwin Zigbee DeadboltOil Rubbed Bronze: $327.70http://www.doorhardwarecenter.com/baldwin-hardware/baldwin-keyless-entry-collection/deadbolts/single-cylinder/baldwin-8252ac2/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Sorry, I said $599 MSRP and it is actually $595.Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neildilgee Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Sorry, I said $599 MSRP and it is actually $595.Sorry.What is wrong with the link that Well armed gave, it looks legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 I'm sure it is. That link shows MSRP at $595. He is selling it at a discounted price. I never said you wouldn't find people selling them cheaper... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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