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told yall

I've heard rumors of savant style licensing fees......

one way to do this assumes you have Lutron keypads:

Build your lighting scene in homeworks and assign it to the button on the keypad

find the integration id of the keypad on the lutron integration report and monitor in Control4 for the Release of the button that triggers the lighting scene

in custom programming set the other actions you want to happen based on the Release of the button

with that principle you can program just about anything to happen from any lutron keypad button

the key is to make the programming actions trigger upon the Release of the button

If you want to make something happen based on time of day you can set up a single Day/Night variable in homeworks and tie that to a timeclock

in this case we'll say Day is sunrise to sunset and Night is sunset to sunrise but you could have any number of timeclocks based on whatever time frames you want

in that timeclock the only thing that needs to be written in the lutron database is the Day or Night variable being true based on the timeclock

on the button programming side select Single Variable instead of Normal or Conditional and this will give you a Day/Night tab for the press

program the lighting scene according to your taste for day and night

on the Control4 side youd have to write a conditional based on time of day to match your Day/Night variable in lutron

5 hours ago, cnicholson said:

I'm trying to diagnose an apparent audio routing problem.  Is there a way to get to display the current audio path from source to end point, explicitly showing each node along the route? 

Thanks

 

 

Whats the source and other components in the chain?

On 12/3/2022 at 9:48 AM, tonysss13 said:

I have had 5 Lutron QS blinds on my system for a few years working fine.

Last week We added 4 new roller blinds that run along our sliding doors to the back garden.

They are connected to the same 10 way Lutron PSU unit as the other 5, and I cannot get C4 to communicate with them for some reason. They operate fine from the 10 slot smart panel override button.

I have changed the integration ID's , just as I did before and programmed exactly the same

If I telnet a Details all devices command to the QS standalone unit (QSE-CI-NWK-E) this is what I get

?DETAILS, ALL_DEVICES

~DETAILS,SN:0x0179eef4,INTEGRATIONID:QS Interface,FAMILY:CONTROL_INTERFACE(6),PRODUCT:QSE(1),CODE:8.60,BOOT:2.13,HW:1.0
~DETAILS,SN:0x02354998,INTEGRATIONID:QS Smart Panel_,FAMILY:SHADES(3),PRODUCT:SHADE_PANEL(2),CODE:0.47,BOOT:2.6,HW:2.1
~DETAILS,SN:0x03c34733,INTEGRATIONID:Guest Room 1_,FAMILY:SHADES(3),PRODUCT:ROLLER(1),CODE:2.35,BOOT:3.0,HW:11.6
~DETAILS,SN:0x03c34734,INTEGRATIONID:Jacks Room_,FAMILY:SHADES(3),PRODUCT:ROLLER(1),CODE:2.35,BOOT:3.0,HW:11.6
~DETAILS,SN:0x03c34735,INTEGRATIONID:Gabys Room_,FAMILY:SHADES(3),PRODUCT:ROLLER(1),CODE:2.35,BOOT:3.0,HW:11.6
~DETAILS,SN:0x03c34736,INTEGRATIONID:Guest Room 2_,FAMILY:SHADES(3),PRODUCT:ROLLER(1),CODE:2.35,BOOT:3.0,HW:11.6
~DETAILS,SN:0x03c34737,INTEGRATIONID:Master Bedroom_,FAMILY:SHADES(3),PRODUCT:ROLLER(1),CODE:2.35,BOOT:3.0,HW:11.6
~DETAILS,SN:0x076c0162,INTEGRATIONID:Sliding Doors 1,FAMILY:SHADES(3),PRODUCT:ROLLER(1),CODE:3.7,BOOT:2.4,HW:83.14
~DETAILS,SN:0x076c0163,INTEGRATIONID:Sliding Doors 2,FAMILY:SHADES(3),PRODUCT:ROLLER(1),CODE:3.7,BOOT:2.4,HW:83.14
~DETAILS,SN:0x076c0164,INTEGRATIONID:Sliding Doors 3,FAMILY:SHADES(3),PRODUCT:ROLLER(1),CODE:3.7,BOOT:2.4,HW:83.14
~DETAILS,SN:0x076c016a,INTEGRATIONID:Sliding Doors 4,FAMILY:SHADES(3),PRODUCT:ROLLER(1),CODE:3.7,BOOT:2.4,HW:83.14

 

I note my previous naming scheme appears to have an underscore at the end for some reason, however duplicating that has not helped.

Also unsure what the codes after ROLLER(1) refer to but they do not match and wonder if that has something to do with it?

thanks in advance

 

 

Stupid question but did you activate the shades in qs?

1 hour ago, Tokead said:

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When I was starting out, fresh from certification I remember I opened up composer pro on the first project I was on and then was immediately a dear in the headlights. Now after a few years of field experience I've seen my way to being able to program these systems pretty easily. As a pay it forward kind thing I made some videos on my youtube channel covering a few different topics in programming. Some of the videos are direct responses to viewer questions which also highlight and showcase different sections of composer pro, be it conditional logic, variables, custom programming, etc. When I was starting out this type of thing would have helped me tremendously to see some of these principles demonstrated rather than just reading about them in practice, so all I ask is anyone that views these videos, if you find them helpful please consider subscribing and liking the videos and if there's a topic or question youd like to see a video about let me know in the comments

Conditionals and string variables :

basement looks great wire management on the rack leaves a lot to be desired, but im a rack nerd. 

What Ive always done, on every amp for 12v regardless if it was a cheap crown or a 90k burmester is the following (utilizing 12v in and 12v out of amp)

This assumes only on and off control. works flawlessly and allows for power monitoring in composer

add 4 or 8 zone c4 amp driver (regardless of the amp manufacturer)

jump the common and 12v together 

N/O to positive 12v in/AMP

GND to negative 12v in/AMP

SIG to 12v out/AMP

GND to 12v out/AMP

might seem weird but it works every time

Ive never done anything with c4 panelized lighting but from everyone ive talked to its less than great, is that your experience as well?

seemingly even more of a pain in the ass is having to either create the scenes again in advanced lighting or tie them through phantoms. Savant integration is a lot better in my opinion. 

yea I see what your saying. thats what was throwing me off. seeing the driver for homeworksqs dimmer makes it sound like its a wired dimmer rather than a module output but I guess its just really based upon the ID. appreciate the response brother.

Due to an admin error beyond my control i dont currently have access to the dealer support site for docs, etc. I'm adding a lutron system remotely to a c4 system that currently doesnt have a 4site license so I'm flying blind here. Can anyone tell me how I'd go about bring the loads from lutron into c4? I have the processor linked via IP and I've added my keypads and shades from the integration IDs I cant find any evidence of lighting loads, nothing shows up under lighting from the composer navigator adjustment screen, what am I missing? I very rarely do composer programming anymore and am in a lutron specific division with the company I work for.....Thanks in advance

Unless it’s changed, it’s been a while since I’ve used c4 to control lutron, the hold and double tap typically don’t work well across the two platforms. What could work is programming a phantom the utilizes a single press for the action you want to complete and tying that to a custom button. Hope this helps. 

Automated a genie garage door opener that so old the casing cracked when i took the screws out to change the capacitor. Used relays to do the same thing the old doorbell switch does and now i can do it from anywhere. threw on a door contact senor for state reporting. 

if you do integrate you will also likely notice lag in your button presses

Considering how old illumination is upgrading to qs or now qsx is a great idea. I work only on lutron systems now and if you need to get a new processor for illumination, lutron no longer makes them and b stock is expensive. all that said integration is possible, it will depend on how the processor is connected, or can be connected through either RS232 or Lan

telnet login is often the problem here. can be access under tool and integration in ra software then update the credentials in composer

seura mirror tvs are good. pricey but they integrate easily. lots of frame options and sizes

Homeworks QS. Nothing is better or more versatile. While it is expensive and doesnt fit all budget or applications, in the instance of new construction a properly planned, wired and installed panelized lighting system has so many benefits. Having worked on C4 lighting, RA2, caseta, Homeworks interactive, Homeworks illuminations, QS reigns supreme. 

my mistake i thought you were referring to the dsp sonance amps. Ive used episode and for multi room they arent bad but they also dont sound particularly good. The reliability of the new one compared to the ones ive used in the past might be better now but i cant speak to it. The gxr2 i think needs a niles controller to operate. you might want to check out audiocontrol amps. I think they offer a large in/output format

use sonance amp regularly. these can be wired for power monitoring the same way c4 amp can be by using a contact closure and relay on an ea controller or iox. theres also IP control for them if im not mistaken. for distributed audio they do the job.

rf9000- the picture shows the xpoint hdmi matrix on right and the mav 48x32 on right. you wire into and out of the mav via phoneix connectors and you'd have either balanced xlr or unbalanced rca on the source or amp ends. hope this helps

The mav works well. does sometime require a reset and the initial wiring is a pain in the ass with the phoneix connectors. and I concur with sonic its a giant piece I think 6U in a rack if not more. Ive worked with a MAV 48x32 in combo with a Xtp xpoint hdmi matrix and they are solid overall for a large install