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You're making my point in your own ignorance. Thanks. A $340 dollar router that ended up being the deadweight anchor of an ENTIRE system that cost nearly 100 times that. it was never right for the job. 

Did i not just say right or wrong? I am certainly entitled to my own opinion having paid a PRETTY penny for this system just over 2 years ago. So, here's mine:

The DAY that router was installed... it was already nearing the end of it's usefulness. Gigabit had been flourishing in my area WELL over a year before that. So, it may have been a "good choice" at the time for my dealer who used SnapAV products almost exclusively in my house, but in a network full of other FULLY gigabit capable devices it was out of place from the moment it was first powered on. That's not opinion... that's just fact. And again, with the word "gigabit" in the product name itself... I never even thought to question it. Now, whether all that is fairly pointed to Araknis to blame? Of course it's not. But, that's my perogative as the end consumer. But, it's not just the router... Judging by many other threads on the topic, their WAPs are crap in comparsion to so many others. So, why would I want to stick with that? 

The Ubiquiti debate seems never ending, for sure. But, i like the idea of managing everything with a consistent interface and REALLY like the idea of even pulling my cameras into the mix at some point as well. Our clunky IC Realtime / ICDDNS system is clunky, antiquated, and annoying as well. But as i said... I am leaning. I've got some more research to do before I make any purchases. But, certainly you are smart enough to realize WHY Control4 would be a slightly biased resource as to who and what all of their consumers should and shouldn't use? Perhaps for the same reason their dealers like to sell and recommend $napAV product$ almo$t exclusively???

1 hour ago, ekohn00 said:

Having no issues doesn’t mean it cant be better.  
Biiiig difference between that 100mb and a 1g connection.   I’m in a similar place as the original poster - I do a lot of file transfers/work online.  Going from 150mb to 1g was dirt cheap - and the results show with far-far less wait times. 

INDEED! I work in video games... and, on any given day in this "work from home" world, we are now needing to sync our entire projects 2-3 times per day on an avg day, or 5 or 6 times on a busy day. Each time, the download is somewhere between 1.5-2.5GB of data and assets that need to re-sync. On Tuesdays and Fridays, we get the latest builds which are somewhere in the 12-15GB range. This was the original reason of why I initially started looking for all the lost bandwidth I was experiencing. 

ADD all of that to a family of five including 3 boys age 16, 15, and 11 and my old connection didn't stand a chance. For $72 bucks a month when 300 was 55, it is a no brainer. 

1 hour ago, AK1 said:

Araknis 300 was an excellent choice a few years ago.

We almost exclusively install the Araknis 310 gigabit models today. And the price / performance remains excellent.

While we loved Mikrotiks and used them for years, they are more of a hobbyist's or networking geek's passion. They are simply not accessible in terms of the knowledge required to be very proficient. The 310 is an excellent router and super accessible for those homeowners who want access.

Yes, you need much better Wifi coverage and replacing and increasing the number of WAPs would be a given. The usual culprits: Unifi, Araknis, Ruckus....

Right or wrong... this entire experience has left a pretty bad taste in my mouth with Araknis in general. So, I'm leaning towards a UDM Pro and 3 or 4 nanoHDs. Again, the cost difference vs the pro model is negligible and helps future proof me (for now, at least).

I do appreciate everyone's guidance and thoughts. Most of it was very helpful!

Cheers!

Yes, that's exactly what I want... To waste as much money as possible so I can have a "BSD" and see big numbers on a speedtest. That's exactly the point of this entire thread. Thank you for your intelligent insight.




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Definitely looking to do BOTH! And both are equally bad (in my opinion). Admittedly for different reasons.

Dismissing a router that claims to be gigabit but is actually only half that seems like a much bigger deal to me. :-)

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On 5/19/2020 at 1:49 PM, Home Theater Advisors said:

Your biggest issue is your APs.   Your router is fine.   You can replace it, but you will notice little, if any, improvement going from 500mbps to 1gbps.  Nothing you are using can take advantage of those speeds.

 

With respect... this makes absolutely no sense to me? But several of you have made a similar comment.

Even forgetting about just the wifi for a moment, this is cutting my wired download speeds in half. I routinely download 2GB folders for work all the time. And, i would've never thought the router was my problem. ESPECIALLY with the word "gigabit" in the name of the product itself?

May not be my "biggest" issue as it relates to the wifi speeds overall... but it is at least AS BIG an issue as the APs, is it not? 

Yeah, i think I am probably attacking the problem incorrectly... We are a family of 5 w two teenage boys, so u can imagine the device usage overall. 

Right now, we have admittedly gotten in the (lazy) habit of just using the 2.4Ghz network 98% of the time to avoid the wifi gaps in the house. That way, we never lose our signal completely... But, at the cost of much slower speed (typically between 10-30, max of about 40). To the point that I even make my phone forget the 5G exists because i got tired of it flaking out on me all the time. Basically, I only use 5G on occasion if I am in the living room or the bedroom (the only 2 places it really works reliably).

So, what I'm hearing is... instead of focusing on trying to make the 2.4G better/faster, I should instead focus on getting better WAP coverage for 5G throughout the house, and then make sure ALL IoT devices are on the 2.4 and then we can all use the 5G w our phones, etc?

But, before any of that... I need to first address the wired router issue which is likely crippling everything from the start?  

I assume there is a decent app out there for walking around and checking signal strength throughout the house? The good news is... there is no shortage of wire in this house, so adding additional ones wherever needed seems pretty trivial. But, is there anything complicated about setting them all up to overlap each other? I do have the wifi analyzer app and there is a CRAP LOAD of other networks that show on the 2.4 network. (neighbors, community rec center, etc). It shows a minimum of 6 at any given time, and a max of 10 or 11. But, for each WAP I add I also need to set it to it's own channel to try to limit interference? Is that right?

Last q, does putting all the IoT devices on their own SSID solve anything? Or do they need to be on their own physical connection to help limit the issues?

Wow... Those prices are STEEP though! LOL

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Yes, mine have individual injectors and are plugged into a powerstrip that is connected to the wattbox as well. Looks like the 231c would be an exact replacement for what I have.

Thanks a lot for this info.

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What did you replace them with?

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Great info so far guys, thanks.

Definitely going to replace the router. I've seen mikrotik mentioned several times in other threads as well.

On wifi, it sounds like I should leave the 2 upstairs then, and just add more down in the basement? And. The main floor can be sandwiched between the 2.

2 more questions.

Why is the 2.4 band so much slower currently? I mean, I know it will always be a bit slower (but wider), but it shouldn't be *that* much slower should it?

If I add more WAPs do they all need to be the same type / brand? I will need two that have PoE and mount to the ceiling if that is the case. Mikrotik for those too?

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Hi guys,

Many of you have helped me through various updates and changes to my system, so I am asking for some suggestions here... I have an all Araknis network setup right now:

AN-300-RT-4L2W Router 

AN-310-SW-48

(2) AN-500-AP-I-AC

I have been having a ton of problems with the wifi lately (speeds and deadzones), and honestly was never a fan of the way my original installer set me up. We have a 5500sf house with a basement, a main floor, and an upstairs. BOTH of the WAPs are in the top floor ceilings (via PoE), and the switch and C4 rack, etc are all in the basement. But, that also means the basement and just outside in the back yard get nearly zero wifi.

Anyway... we also recently upgraded from 300 Mbit to 1Gbit internet w Windstream and I have been going CRAZY trying to figure out why I can never get anything over about 380 or so from my wifi system (even on 5G at the top level). On 2.4, it's consistently under 50 just about everywhere. For a while, I thought maybe I had the 300 series WAPs instead of the 500, but I have logged in and verified they are both 500s. But, then it hit me.... The friggin ROUTER he installed is only a 300 series??? Sure enough, i found this when I looked it up:

LAN - LAN Throughput: 1Gbps
WAN - LAN Throughput: 492Mbps
IPSec Throughput: 75Mbps

First, who on EARTH would put in a Gigabit switch, and 2 Gigabit WAPs, but choose this level router to run the whole setup???  Second, this still doesn't make complete sense because on my wired pc connection, I do occasionally get in the 600s (well over the 492 it says above)? So, I am completely confused now... 

So, question 1 is... Is my router a problem as i suspect it is? 

If so, I've got a bunch of video switching that happens on my system, etc etc... So, is there an "easy" way to upgrade if i stick with another Araknis router without losing all my settings? How do you guys recommend I tackle this? Also, any suggestions on better WAPs while I am at it? I shouldn't need two of them on the upper floor should I? But, that was the only way he could get the loft area to work at the time. Surely there are better quality / more powerful options to where I could move one of them to the basement (basically at the switch) while I am doing all these other changes?

SO, SO, SO, FRUSTRATING! Not like I had this all installed 10 years ago... it was in 2017!!!

I know it's a lot... but any guidance is much appreciated. 

I was getting it all day last 2 days... Finally stopped for me late this morning.

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Yes I do.

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Very, very frustrating....

Let me know what u hear. Thx!


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3rd time today I have had to remove my system and re-add it to get the app to connect. Only thing that has changed is that my OS3 was auto-updated in the play store 21 hours ago. Coincidence?

Anyone else seeing this issue? I have rebooted my entire system multiple times with no luck. Seems to work for about an hour or 2 each time, then stops.

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^^^ indeed. That, and soooooo many other things. LOL

Anyway, Mujtaba hopped in there and gave me a screenshot real quick. I indeed had flipped 6 and 7.

Thanks!!!

Hi guys,

Can anyone tell me where / how the different IR ports are mapped to certain tv's / rooms within Composer? Perhaps it's something I just can't see in HE? I have all the ports in use and think i may have flipped 2 of them accidentally after I rewired some other stuff in the rack. But, I don't see where I can see what number goes to what room?

Pulling my hair out... 

I've had a single room (tv) of my 9 total that has stop responding to commands from the Control4 system. I have 9 inputs setup and 5 outputs. 

1. It still shows video (whatever it had last) so the cable(s) are good.

2. If I force it from the Key Digital software on the PC directly... it switches properly. 

3. If I switch on C4 OR the Key Digital APP... it does NOT work properly. 

I have been troubleshooting / guessing for hours but with no knowledge of how C4 passes in the commands (only HE access) I can't figure out what the issue is? I initially thought it was a bad receiver after rebooting it as well as the controller, and noticing that the KD app didnt do the trick either? But, then I stumbled on #2 which tells me its NOT the receiver. It's not any of the transmitters as those work on all 8 other rooms. 

Any thoughts / suggestions on what else i should be trying? Is it possible something went bad in Composer to cause this? Seems like it wouldnt be composer related as it doesnt work in the KD app either. It is the first receiver in the list that is messing up which seems strange, I'm just out of ideas... 

Say i had a string of programming that could be triggered in many different rooms of my house, but i wanted to create a single button for it. Then, from any room, I could just press the single button and it would happen (but only in the room i was currently in).

I know I can add a custom button that appears in every room, but how can i find out the current room selected on the app and/or navigator in programming so that I could then execute the commands I want?

Yes, I could just create a bunch of them customized for each room. But, just wondering if this is possible?

Don't have a local guy any more. Just use some of the guys on here. @msgreenf any other  thoughts? How hard is it to remove the room itself and add it back? 

1 hour ago, South Africa C4 user said:

You could try deleting the custom button Agent and adding it back... but I suspect that you will then need to redo any programming you have on custom buttons... if you try this, I’d strongly recommend doing a project back up first!

Tried that last night. I had only a couple other buttons so I was fine wiping them out. But, it didn't fix the issue though.

All I did was "remove it" and then add it back. I'm assuming that's all u can do, yes? 

Anyone else ever run into this and/or have a potential solution? We checked the system. No leftovers or partially deleted buttons, etc. Rebooted the controllers, etc. 

Any other things I can try? 

5 hours ago, Cartnj said:

Check detective suite for something old left behind. You will find your problem. 

How do I do that? 

So strange... It's like there is a setting blocking the functionality just for that room? But, I cant find anything that would do that? When I add a button to "All Rooms" it adds for everything except the master bedroom as well.