justice16 Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 I picked up some dimmers from a dealer who was going out of business recently. Once opened, I noticed that they have a "240V" sticker on the side. Will these work in a 110/120v environment? I assume they will, as all the documentation refers to 120v, but have never seen 240V's sold before (and assume 120V switches *would not* work in a 240V env) . Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henniae Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 The 240 volt dimmers are for use outside the US and are not usually sold in the US.They are designed for 240 volt and not rated for 120 volt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Yeah if you need the high voltage stuff, I believe Card Access is the one that sells the us spec at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 I picked up some dimmers from a dealer who was going out of business recently. Once opened, I noticed that they have a "240V" sticker on the side. Will these work in a 110/120v environment? I assume they will, as all the documentation refers to 120v, but have never seen 240V's sold before (and assume 120V switches *would not* work in a 240V env) . Thoughts?The real question is, what is the model # on the dimmer.I would assume that the dealer who sold them to you should know if they're 120V switches, or if they're only for 240V. That's one of the benefits of *having* a dealer, he's (or she's) going to sell you the right equipment.RyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice16 Posted April 19, 2009 Author Share Posted April 19, 2009 I know they are 240V switches, the question is if they could be installed in a 120V environment. Most electrical equipment, appliances, panels, etc are dual voltage, and generally you can't go higher than the rated voltage, but going lower is no issue. Wondering if C4 dimmers are the same...anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 I wouldn't necessarily assume that just because they're rated for 240 that it'll also work on 120.What is the model # on the switches?RyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanchow Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 240v dimmers can be powered from as low as 36v. However the 240v dimmer is only certified in certain countries. It may not be legal for you to have it installed wherever you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arpner Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 HiI know this isnt the 'for Sale' section or anything, but I live in the UK and we use the 240v dimmers here. If your looking to get rid of them then PM me and with a price and quantity as I need quite a few more to finish my house . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice16 Posted April 21, 2009 Author Share Posted April 21, 2009 Model # is ldz-101-x. Looking to use them in the US... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice16 Posted April 23, 2009 Author Share Posted April 23, 2009 RyanE - any ideas bases on the above model #? Thanks in advance for the help... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I don't know what an LDZ-101-X is.LDZ-101-W (White)LDZ-101-B (Black)LDZ-101-A (Almond)Are the first-generation US models.Maybe someone is just referring to one of the LDZ-101-(something) dimmers. If so, it's likely OK.The current model is the LDZ-102-W/B/A.RyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Of course, all the documentation on my dimmers says 120V, so if yours says 240, it could be something else.Mine have this stamped on the front plate:120V50-60Hz1000WRyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkrock Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 I don't know what an LDZ-101-X is.LDZ-101-W (White)LDZ-101-B (Black)LDZ-101-A (Almond)Are the first-generation US models.Maybe someone is just referring to one of the LDZ-101-(something) dimmers. If so, it's likely OK.The current model is the LDZ-102-W/B/A.RyanEwhats the diffrence between the 101 and the 102? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdvr Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 1LOLalthough I do beleive we have a search funtion here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Yeah that was just asked the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Yeah, and I answered the same.RyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Does anyone know if the 240v dimmers will work?There are a bunch on ebay right now that are brand new, so I thought I would ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Does anyone know if the 240v dimmers will work?There are a bunch on ebay right now that are brand new, so I thought I would ask.240v dimmers can be powered from as low as 36v. However the 240v dimmer is only certified in certain countries. It may not be legal for you to have it installed wherever you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 codeman, I saw that. I was just wondering about the legality.How would someone find out if a 240v dimmer is legal to have or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 codeman, I saw that. I was just wondering about the legality.How would someone find out if a 240v dimmer is legal to have or not?Check the electric codes, ask a couple of licensed electricians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronbowalker Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 2-Button Keypad will have the following "Stickers" or "Markings" on it:(1) Marker on the rear of the housing: "LSZ-3W1-x" ( the x reprsents the color code of the faceplate)(1) Sticker on the side/bottom of the housing: "LSZ-3W1-240-W" (W represents white faceplate)The aluminum mounting frame will still have the following engraved information on the front: 120vac 60/50hz 1.8WBut then a DEALER or CONTROL4 rep would have already known that right? So why is it necessary to run 20 posts to get to this simple answer. Sounds more like diversion.As for compatability, each of the lower 48 states have electrical codes for residential applications, therefore you will need to simply call an electrician in your area and ask if they know the switching code regulations for your state. No that was easy enough.And last but not least, 240vac systems are a breed of their own. But in may instances, a device will power up on 120v, and will fully funcion at 240v. Your electric stove for instance will work on 120v. At least the lights and timers will. But it will not get "HOT" unless you get it up to 240v. So to answer the question, you will have to put a dimmer on the line to find out. I have (2) of these right now, and I am in the process of returning them to the seller. But if that fails do happen, I will test the 120v question myself and let you know what the results are. If you have a wiring diagram to assist in this test, please e-mail to me for use. It will be of benefit to those who are legally able to use this device in ther residence...Ebay just had several go unpurchased at $20 each! Send me one if you have one to throw into the test if you want. I will be pending with mine for several days right now.So, if that answers all of your questions, I will now move on to "assisting" others...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronbowalker Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 I now have the answer to the question. NO.120v will not even power the unit on. Been there...done that...Pulling a 240v out of the breaker panel is too much of a hastle and you are better off ditching these 240v units and moving on.Besides, the price of copper wire will negate any unrealized savings you might have expected by snatching these "jems" off of Ebay. I have (2) that will be paperweights till someone in a land far-far away calls wanting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Actually, I believe you would require the same or *LESS* copper with 240v.2X the voltage, 1/2 the current.RyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronbowalker Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 This is true, but a foot of copper is a foot of copper. Why rewire 50 foot of copper when 50 foot of copper is already there?Here in my state, almost all appliances that are 240v are now a 4-conductor. (2)hot(1)Neutral(1)Ground. But I doubt this Control4 device will require the 4 conductors due to the fact that it only has (3) wires on it.Last time I remember getting a small roll of 14/3 electrical romex at the Home Depot, it seems like about $1 a foot was the going rate.Maybe you thought that I would re-terminate that circuit to a 240v breaker.....this would work but will need to be on a circuit all by itself. Most likely it is not. Ad of course the wire colors will not match what an electrician would like to see if repairs to the home were ever needed. So hillbilly as it may seem, sometimes be creative is creative all right....it creates more work than it is worth!Thanks for the post RyanE...always good to hear from ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 I certainly wouldn't suggest re-pulling feeds to use some dimmers you got off eBay for a decent price...RyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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