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Hahahahah no man he touch panel type :-) told you W Hotel is porn star hotel Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

Hi all Traveling and staying in the good old W hotel. They known for the porn star looking rooms [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] They have really cool button panels next to their beds and by the bathroom. And Now I have keypads, T3s, Neos etc etc but like this button interface. Is anything like this for C4?

Simple two tests: Log on to the web interface go to address book: 1. Create a user, save picture for the user 2. Add use to an address book or address book position. Wait for some time or just open composer and select the driver (this forces a read of properties and write / sync back) Presto everything gets reset. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

The irony (and slew of rant posts from me on this) is that the DS2 is capable of this and much much more. It is for some unknown reason to man kind, that C4 insist that they will revert back to default any config you do via the web interface to the ds2. I have been doing a number of seriously cool configs and have researched the amount of 2N (manufacturer) modules etc for the door station we have. There are so many plug and pray modules from rfid, proximity Bluetooth for user access control to even pressure sensor pads for gate opening all of which, you can buy, connect and configure via the web interface ——- until the sync happens between C4 and the door station. It then reverts back to an expensive PoS. You even have different choices of camera qualities as a plug and pray module into the door station. The setting for the camera exposure, motion capture etc is actually on the door stations web interface, just doesn't last past the sync between C4 and ds2 once configured (I had the same issue with light exposure from outside lights) The situation is so incredibly stupid from C4 I am almost finished with some linux code to block the sync between C4 and DS2 (happens once to d the config so you can get intercom etc then block the coms that does they sync). Then i can actually use he ds2 full capability and not be limited by C4 to 1% of the ds2 capability. Ok rant over as I know you feel the same pain. @msgreenf answer is most probably your best bet with Ring ..... the integration is not great but for now we at the mercy of one of the poorest design decisions by C4 since the inception of the system.

That is huge on the geek scale love it!!! Well then you could measure intake (current temp) and out flow (heated) that would be perfect - do you have a github project for this?

Now that is cool is the project on github?

Anyone played around with a wireless water temp gauge for a pool for C4? Would be nice to know my pool temp :-) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

Yup have the same unfortunate issue and there is no way around it. Along with other factors as manufacturers using proprietary protocols for their controllers getting a addon to do far input devices is flakey at best.

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Can you check which version of the driver you are on the latest is 246 (which is the one we #SorryNotSorry Ranting about)

No No please go ahead thought I was the only one ranting! Yup 246 is the driver! Right now I have expensive wall jewelry! I just wish C4 would let us config extra settings via web interface, sure keep your settings in sync but p1ss off forcing everything to default! The 2N HW is a seriously powerful bit of kit made stupid by C4 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

Hi all, I wanted to check something on the config of the DS2: I am trying to do something really simple with this DS2, you press the call button and hey it calls the navigators and intercom app on phones. Now the ONLY way I can get this to work (*note - hence why I am asking I am sure *I* am doing something wrong in the config here) - is if I logon to the web portal for the DS 2 go to Hardware>Buttons> Quick Dial buttons --> set it to a contact. Of course every so randomly often C4 goes and resets the settings you just set on the DS2. So I looked at the driver in composer. I go to Intercom section, Call Group, Select my call group and click set. It just sets the drop down back to blank....... How can one simply get this dam thing to call all the navigators when someone presses the long button under the camera. [Trying really hard not to rant and rave here as we all know how much I "love" this DS2 and C4's integration into it - here I am trying to blame myself and missing a config rather ]

@Shivam Paw I think with both your drivers plate and face what would be most useful to the dealers / users if you would provide the debug info of the success and or fail of the AI (I think you already do this still on holiday will pick up the drivers when I am back and add them to my project to play around with them). The reason I say provide as much info as possible (I would just make them variables what I mean by variables, success / failure rate (think you do this), confidence level (think you do this)), you can program some "help" information. Example for me what I would do: 1. Using Confidence level - If I allowed a person or plate in based on a low confidence level say 85% I would still set a programming event to notify me (email or notification) it worked but there were some issues you should have a look a the captured image and go to link ABC to see how better to improve - could be cam resolution, position, light exposure etc. 2. Same as above for success / failure rate. Question: I think the Plate driver attaches a snapshot url from the camera to the notification (if I saw the image right) - is this correct? Can you enable snapshot URL for email? Use case: Based on my suggestions above I could then store the images to see what angel etc is right and wrong to adjust for better clarity.

Very good question! I *think* its described in the API documentation, depending on how the API is called and what is allowed to be stored it does get “smarter” on common images you keep posting - if you choose to use the learning feature. This way the ML model used for the calls starts learning from the false positives etc. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

Spot on man! Glad to see you using the best AI service

I think the user codes are all controlled through the locks and sensors section in the navigators. I wouldn’t change anything on the web interface..... The C4 driver just resets it all back every time it syncs with the DS2 (which is my mind is completely and utterly stupid). I would of sync’ed the settings that are related to the C4 driver and left any other settings the user had set on their hw that they own. We have a really cool device only to be made half retarded and limited by the options on the C4 driver. Would love to be wrong - I am still going to find that service or traffic on the wire that forces the sync and block it even if I have to block it with a ssh script on the controller (yes I know its not supported). Would - 1. Do they sync that is required to Intergrated with C4, most probably going to have to be once off. 2. Block the rest of the crap. I know its a rant - but I see you going down the same road as me trying to use the more intuitive web interface only to think its setup and then the sync kicks in and wipes everything out (every single time). If you want what I have done is I setup the DS2 the way I want it to be (all the settings some pretty advanced ones to) backed up the config, then I run a cron job every x amount of hours and restore the config to override the C4 sync.

Good question! Something I am trying to figure out to! Following this!

As for Face Reg, it would be really nice feature to have Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

Nice the model for the accuracy would be great to expose via the driver as well tbh as one could then do programming around that I.e. Bla is at the gate, 89% confidence level - expecting bla so should let them in. Or Joe is at the gate confidence level 65% - send camera snapshot of different angles. Some cool use cases that could be done here :D Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

Makes sense and good thinking with the beam sensor, you can get them for pretty cheap and you could even use the magnetic pressure sensor etc from 2N for the DS2 (if C4 didn’t insist on resetting your bloody settings all the time it syncs). Would have to figure out how that would really work in my scenario but I am sure that is not an issue.

Excellent! That is more than fair for what you actually getting and the fact that the processing is done remotely and you just getting a Boolean to work with (I assume that is what is returned). Should look at face reg as well as it could then validate the need to put a decent camera at the entrance for both plate and face. Once could potentially even use the camera image from a DS2 but that camera is cr@p.

Very cool. So in your instance the car would have to get to the gate and be stationary? Then the trigger for the sequence *check the np, c4 etc which as you mentioned is relatively quick* The use case there is in some areas around the world having to sit at the gate could pose a risk, most times ppl would pre open the gate even before arriving. Now this could be dealt with by using a bullet camera with a good distance lense and the right exposure. The only issue I would see then would be all the false positives with the potential number of cars driving up and down on your street.

Yeah I was doing something similar with blue iris AI integration for face and number plates. Nothing as fancy as your fantastic driver, all it did was use blue iris to do the processing in the background and I used all the cameras through blue iris. I would still recommend running all cameras through BI though I am kinda a OCD freak when it comes to data and the stuff I have seen all sorts of cameras I have *including* the big brand names sending to china is astonishing .... This is with enterprise trusted tools that trace the traffic... (I digress) What stopped me at the end was the amount of AI calls one could do whilst 1000 does sound like a lot it depends on the use case. The question I would have though is does this driver do a call to the plate API every time it detects a movement (motion) or every time it successfully picks up a number plate? Most of the providers have this free queries but then don’t have “scalable” plans kinda goes from free to enterprise license. In your testing how successful has this worked with cameras mounted on high points I.e. roof corners etc. Reason I am asking is your original post shows quite a detailed and close up picture of the plate which would improve the AI positive return. Trying to figure out if I had to go this way would I have to put a camera mounted at a relative level to the entrance or could I leave my 5 and 8mp cameras two stories high on the corners of the house..... They have PTZ etc but having the camera, locking into the car (possible), then zoom into the cars plate (possible with presets), then the API call... I would be doing this full post while I waited for the systems to all connect and do their thing. So another camera would be needed in my opinion at a relative height with a good enough resolution? Please don’t get me wrong I think what you have done here and then integration into C4 is incredible. Just want to know if for my use case I would really use it or it would be more of a nice to have.

Additional question: Within C4 can you like a number plate to a person i.e plate: P123456 = John Doe Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

This is AWESOME question though is there an option to add more than 1000 requests a month?