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Also, because when I look at buying the Cat6a wire it all says 23AWG, the same as Cat6, so its confusing

Yes, I know this, but was specifically asking because they use thicker wire and was wondering if the Rj45 ends are harder to put on?

Ok. But do the Cat6a cables use different ends then the Cat6? And if so, they still plug into a regular RJ45 jack, right?

All, Buying some wire and just want to get opinions on best type: Cat6 vs Cat6 vs Cat6 shielded - I qa panning on wiring everything like TVs, POE cameras, POE blinds, touch screens, etc with Cat6. But would Cat6a be better or is Cat6a only need if runs are like 200+ ft? I see some installers one run shielded Cat6 to TV locations. What is the purpose of this? Do I need shielded anywhere? 22/4 and 22/2 for alarm: Same question, do I need shielded?

All, This is an area I have never looked in to. I'm going to have several exterior security cameras and was wondering if most of you also do DVR with cameras? Or dooms not have the cameras setup to record? I suspect I will have 8 cameras. I would like to have DVR on these cameras, but don't want it to be cumbersome. Can I actually access the DVR through Control4 and is it a smooth process or a headache? Am I looking at the wrong piece of equipment when I see the Wirepath WPS-300-DVR-9CH?

These are specs for the Crown amp, looks like the CDI 1000 model would be plenty for these if say I have seven of them on one run. At 70Vrms, that amp puts out 500w x 2

Thanks. Got another question. So I will roughly have 7 landscape speakers in the front yard and 7 landscape speakers in the back yard. I was using two zones for these as these speakers are optional voltage speakers. They are Crestron and below are the specs. What would you use for wire to interconnect these speakers. Think of using a Crown CDI amplifier Features & Performance Woofer 6.5 inch (165 mm) polypropylene w/rubber surround & steel basket Tweeter 0.8 inch (20 mm) treated cloth dome, coaxially mounted Crossover Frequency 2.5 kHz Impedance 8 Ohms nominal with transformer set to "8Ω" Transformer Taps 3.75W or 15W at 70V; 7.5W at 100V Frequency Response 100 Hz to 20 kHz (±3 dB) Frequency Range 80 Hz to 20 kHz (-10 dB) Power Handling 75 Watts program (8 Ohms) Sensitivity 85 dB @ 1W/1m Coverage 105° conical (nominal) Connections Input (1) 3 feet (1 m) attached direct burial cable containing (2) 16 AWG (1.31 mm²) conductors, unterminated; Includes two waterproof wire nuts; requires a suitable electrical junction box (not included) Controls Transformer Tap (1) Recessed screwdriver-adjustable rotary switch on rear; Used to select 70/100V tap or 8 Ohms (bypass)

Do you really think for in celling speakers and landscape speakers that I need OFC wire (Oxygen Free)? And only would need to be CL2 and not CL3 for the interior wire I'm guessing

What is the general practice for wire size for speakers? Do you run 14 or 16 AWG to ceiling speakers? For outdoor buried speaker wire, do you run 14 or 16 AWG? What about for indoor ceiling subwoofers and the outdoor buried subwoofers? 12, 14, or 16 AWG?

Thanks for quick reply. On the: Garage Doors: I will run one Cat6 to the motor and one Cat6 to the wall button location, but do I run any to the rails themselves so that system can detect when open or close, or will the Liftmaster MyQ systems automatically do this, hence the reason we are running the Cat to the motor? Networking gear: Not sure yet. Would just like some good suggestions on brand and model numbers to run my whole system, with the POE capabilities to run blinds and all other equipment. Will have about 30 motorized blinds. Do I need managed or unmanaged switches? TV Locations: What wiring do I need for digital audio baluns? I assume using those for just the TVs that I want to add as sources to the audio matrix? Also, please explain what you mean by preference to have zigbee/osd since I'm not doing video distribution? Landscape Lighting: Yes, we will add control of this, forgot. I have heavy duty landscape transformers already that will be located near the control room. Are those as simple as just leaving the transformers always on and using a regular C4 switch to control the outlet they plug in to for an on/off type of function? No Generator TV locations will all get RG6 quad shield. There is crawlspace under the entire home which we did for the several reasons but one being the entire main level we will have access to. We will be dropping hard pipe PVC from each TV and AV location down through the wall and open into the crawlspace below. Will always be able to drop cables Battery Backups: What do you recommend here with brands and models? I have never looked into this before

Guys, About to start a large rough in wiring project. My guys are going to pull the wires and the my dealer will do final installation and programming. That is the plan thus far. So, I'm going to visit with my dealer of course, but I need any and all advice on rough in wiring. Sorry for the long post but please read. If you reply, please let me know what you are suggesting along with wire size, etc. We are also really looking for some unique things to incorporate that you all of done with occupancy sensors, lighting, etc.lastly, if you would suggest more equipment, please let me know. For the home, here is what I have: -C4 CONTROL and WIRELESS: Equipment: EA5, EA1s (3), WALL Touchscreens (4), Access points (6) in the home, garage, and outdoors, multiple network switches with at least 50 ports of POE (only need 5 watts per POE port) Touchscreens I will run one Cat6 to each location. Controllers will be located in control room where all this wiring will terminate -AUDIO. Equipment: Speakers, subwoofers, Triad 24 audio switch, Triad 8 audio switch, (3) Triad 8 zone amplifiers, Subwoofer amplifiers, voltage amplifier for landscape zones 32 zones of audio. 24 of these zones will be regular stereo zones located in the house/garage. 2 zones will be for front landscape speakers and rear landscape speakers that will be voltage runs (about 7 speakers on each zone). The remaining six zones will be subwoofer zones. These subwoofers zones will be programmed to come with certain stereo zones. For example, we have two subwoofers in the kitchen so when kitchen stereo zone is selected we want the kitchen subwoofer zone to come on too playing the same music. The other subwoofer zones are the same kind of zones in the house and also we have several outdoor subwoofers that will come on with the landscape zones. For wire, my plan is to tun 16 gauge wire to all in house stereo zones. To run 14 guage to all in house subwoofer zones, outdoor subwoofer zones, outdoor landscape zones. -HVAC. Equipment: (6) C4 THERMs I will have three furnaces and three Air Conditioners and two garage heaters. There will be four HVAC zones in the house. All of this equipment, minus the garage heaters and THERMs, will be located in an "under the house" utility room. My plan was to place C4 thermostats in this room, four of them for the four house zones (the two for each garage heater will be in the garage). For wire, I was going to run 18/5 from the furnaces to the thermostats. -ALEXA. Equipment: 14 Echo 3s. I have dummy ceiling speakers with mounts inside for the Echos so that they will be hidden in the ceiling. There will be an electrical outlet inside the ceiling at each location for power. I was going to run two Cat6 wires to each location and use those Cat6 to 3.5mm adapters for each Echo -DOOR STATION Equipment: One C4 DS2 I was planning to run one Cat6 wire to the door location -LIGHTING: Equipment: multiple APD dimmers, Switches, KP Dimmers, Keypads, etc. These will of course be all 120V wired and then programmed -SECURITY and CAMERAS: Equipment: 8 flush mount door sensors I haven't decided on what to do here yet. Would really like some recommendations. Was thing either DSC or Paradox. Paradox's equipment looks nicer and a little modern, like it wasn't designed in the 80s like most security equipment. All alarm and security will be hardwired. Was going to run 22/4 to any security touchscreens and 22/2 to any motions or door sensors. Cameras I would run one Cat6 but don't know what kind of POE cameras to get. Looking for recommendations in this area. Really want some nice clear cameras (4k) that operate smoothly within C4. Also, do the PTZ cameras work well? On my previous system the cameras had such delay and had to navigate through a couple menus to get them to come up on screen so just never used them. Too much of a pain. Also, don't know if I want to jump into DVR for the cameras, but if I do I want something that is set and forget. Automatically records and then writes over itself. -BLINDS: Equipment: None I'm pretty sure that I'm going with a brand that has POE motors. So basically would have to run one Cat6 to each blind location -VIDEO: Equipment: Samsung Smart TVs (12) I have decided to skip the video distribution dinosaur. At our home now we mainly watch, Netflix, HBONow, and we even canceled our regular cable service and now have YouTube TV. So really just App programs through our Samsung TVs. We also want to maybe use 1-2 of these TVs as source for the C4 Audio system. So for example, when we are watching a football game, we can have it played throughout the house. I have heard of people having problems with this though with lip syncing, etc. so I want to get your feedback on that and what I should do for wiring. Is it just a RCA audio out cable from TV home ran back to the control room? -SPRINKLERS: Equipment: None Just want to incorporate my sprinkler system into C4. I do not know what to run for wire their to the controller for the sprinklers or what equipment to buy that works best -GARAGE: Equipment: None I want to integrate my garage doors. I will have five garage doors, all will have Liftmaster 8500 jackshaft openers on them. I would like to be notified when the doors are open have a certain time of the day, etc. Would also like the capability to remotely open and close the garage doors. -POOL and FIRE: Equipment: None Not sure what to do here. Our pool will consists of an automatic cover, some deck spray jets, and some underwater lighting. Where I live we can't get to crazy with our pools. The equipment will be Pentair for the pool. I know that Pentair make Intellicontrol systems to ingrate with C4, but don't know if its really worth it. I think code will not allow the automatic cover to be automated, so really would just be controlling the lights. Was thinking of using a regular C4 switch for this? As far as fire features, there will be an outdoor patio regular gas fireplace that has a remote control, was thinking to use a regular C4 switch with this. Also thinking of having two electronic ignition fire bowls. These are the type that can be turned on with a remote, so was thinking I would have regular C4 light switches tied into these to turn these on and off too? IDEAS: Above I have listed the basic system of what I'm thinking. Probably forgot something. I would really appreciate and welcome any and all ideas that you guys may have for some things to do and prepare for that are unique and work well in your experience. I think occupancy sensors are cool and can do some cool things with them but just don't know here to use these. Also, anything you can suggest for when guests arrive, when wife comes home early in the morning from her workouts, when kids get older, some things they might like, etc. Again, sorry for the long post

Guys, I want to do a bunch of motorized blinds that connect to the network via CAT6 POE and all have their own IP address. But we are talking about 20-30 individual blinds, plus all the C4 stuff, etc. How big of a switch can one get with POE ports? I know they have 48 but might need bigger

Guys, I'm looking to buy about 4000 to 5000ft of CAT6 for new construction wire. What is recommended to use these days? Is it regular Cat6? Cat6a? Cat7a? Should it have a riser rating? CMR rating? What should I look for on compliance? Go with solid copper wire and stay away from any aluminum? Also, if looking around the internet, there are options on Amazon, etc. that are much cheaper than getting something from Southwire, etc. Does it really matter as long as the requirements and compliance are met? Is the name brand wire any better than the off brand name stuff?

Yeah, I get it. I just have three 8ft entry doors and a 9' front door. Was hoping to remote unlock one of them, but they are all three point locks. I guess that is a feature I will have to forgo. Makes me wonder though, if I have all liftmaster garage openers, can I integrate them so that I can open one of them remotely?

On one of those zigbee locks, can I get those to work within C4?

Just didn't know if anyone has ever done a three point lock before and if anyone made anything for it to integrate with C4. It would surprise me if someone has not. It virtually would be the same turning deadbolt locking mechanism that operates the deadbolt, just is basically connected to a top and bottom deadbolt too. But the turning mechanism is really the same. When ordering exterior doors here from Therma-Tru, Pella, etc. they all have three point locking as an option.

Its not a requirement but really helps the taller doors seal up very nice and keeps them from warping, etc. We have 30 below winters, 100 degree summers and everything in between

Guys, My two service doors into my garage are going to 8ft doors. In my neck of the woods, 8ft doors usually are installed with three point locks. Am I SOL with using a locking mechanism that is C4 compatible?

Ok. I guess I will compare pricing. Lutron can be bought from Lowes and HD so that is good I guess

And how do those work compared to Lutron? Really good? And do the quality of fabrics, etc. compare?

Guys, Im looking for recommendations on the best motorized blinds at the lowest cost. There are many new lower cost products coming to the market these days and wondering if anything new works as well as the older brands that still charge an arm and a leg. Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks

I'm having a bit of trouble with the Nice website. I can't seem to find any of their products that they sell?

Can anyone explain what Dante is and how it would be beneficial?

Why? I'm actually looking for security/cameras that are quick, easy, high resolution and that all work under C4 interface. You know, what one would assume should be standard and a very simple thing. Its been awhile since I installed a system though so there might be very good things out there now. My last system was with an HC800 and Axis security cameras. It sucked. Crappy resolution, very cumbersome to even get to the camera screen page, etc. Almost was no point in even having cameras because of how time consuming it was to use them. On top of it, I would have door to door salesmen come trying to sell me on some cheap alternatives. I was never interested because I already had my system in place but these cheap alternatives absolutely looked fantastic as far as speed, ease of use, and resolution. It would really piss me off because I spent a ton of money on my system and it didn't look or work half as good

Guys, I see now that Vivint integrates fully with Control4. Anyone recommend using there security and cameras for a new construction install?