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36 minutes ago, RAV said:

What would be useful is for Matter (as it's the best possible hope to some form of standard, not that it seems to be going anywhere soon) to transport alert broadcasts from appliances and the like.
Then the chosen front end can be setup to subscribe to those alerts and push/announce/react on them.

Alexa - "The upstairs dryer has completed it's cycle" "The Kitchen fridge door is open"  "The Grill thermometer has reached 175 degrees"
No more vendor apps, no API, no cloud, no servers. Just an agreed on LAN broadcast of an ID and a Message, conforming to a format.
I don't need to start my washer remotely, still need to put the detergent in it, but let me know when it's done, or an error.
One way communication would be cheap to implement, and a sell point and show a user benefit.

I don't need to see what's in my fridge, until you can tell me which shelf the mustard jar is hiding behind, or who ate my leftover pizza.

We are still in the phase where these vendors think having their own app will set them apart. Nobody is buying a refrigerator, dish washer or wash machine because of its connected features, they are buying it for the job its supposed to do. Once they realize this then maybe they can come together and make a simple standard for external systems to use.

7 hours ago, msgreenf said:

That mentality is changing. But it still doesn't me I would pick unify. I would pick fortinet before unifi 

I would say most would for a corporate setting as well but what about real estate or insurance offices with like 5-10 people. i think this is where unifi fits in (along with the home market).

1 minute ago, Popolou said:

In no small part i am sure because Cisco do not release firmware which borks their kit (or at least not in a long while). Unifi have demonstrated a tendency not to fully QA their revisions which causes a lot of issues across the full spectrum of customers and despite it being GA. Their wireless AP lines are pretty solid mind.

That and the "nobody ever got fired for buying IBM" corporate mentality. Cisco is always a safe bet for networking. Even if they had lots of problems no one would get in trouble or question why you would go with Cisco.

When i look at all the integrators on instagram it seems to me that Unifi is by far the most popular residential/small business networking vendor (small sample I am sure). When i view corporate campuses or universities or hospitals it seems to be mostly Cisco AP's (again probably a small sample).

3 hours ago, Cyknight said:

Don't consider them touchscreens at all. They're super fancy 'touch' keypads.

 

'Touchscreens' in C4 world are full scale visual/user interfaces that give you your whole home to control in every aspect, a keypad is a programmed control point set to do specific tasks.

If you asked the average person to look at this device and the C4 touchscreen they couldn't tell the difference. 

Looking around at documentation it appears that this device cant do the intercom function.

17 hours ago, Moshe Katz said:

Honestly i'm a 12 year old trying to make a quick buck for someone at my dad's work who wants to see if im up for the challenge. My dad has composer which will make it easier... please help me, also my dad knows everything about composer and c4 except drivers and making drivers so if that helps maybe just maybe

Then got get a paper route. This isnt for you.

10 hours ago, fleon said:

Yes, I much prefer these:

 

https://axionlighting.com/product/axion-android-poe-touch-panels/

 

So much cheaper too....

 

Have you deployed many of these? What do you lose with this versus a C4 touchscreen?

13 minutes ago, RyanE said:

I take it you're not a Caddyshack fan.  Not everyone has good taste... 

Sorry, I've seen the movie but its not one of those where i remember all the lines.

6 minutes ago, RyanE said:

Oh, there won't be any speed improvement, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness.

So you've got that going for you ... which is nice.

I guess this was supposed to be funny.

Now that I think about it, I would think Resideo will try to get Control4 into their Total Connect platform. Will be interesting to see where this heads. Potential for a lot of corporate bloat but also potential for some tight integrations with existing smart home brands.

5 minutes ago, Control4Savant said:

My comment has nothing to do with C4. A lot of us integrators dont use ADI for reasons.

However, if you think things were slowly evolving  for Control4 now.. just wait. 

gotcha. i guess i was just saying its not like C4 will get shutdown or anything.

does this really mean anything for Control4? i doubt anything for them really changes. it just looks like they are now part of a bigger company doing the same thing Snap was.

1 minute ago, msgreenf said:

I think you have that backwards. Resideo bought Honeywells Alarm business

Sort of. It looks like Resideo was spun off from Honeywell's alarm and distribution business https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resideo .

3 minutes ago, DawnGordon said:

Absolutely.

There are no differences in computing power between the EA-1 and the EA-3. They are the same. There is no technical basis for saying i would see an improvement moving director to the EA-3.

This seems to make sense. Snapone was basically the same thing as Resideo. They both have a products and distribution division.

6 minutes ago, msgreenf said:

IMHO ZigBee performance and cooling 

I only have 5 zigbee devices. 

1 hour ago, msgreenf said:

You should switch your director to EA3. You will see a performance improvement...ea1 really shouldn't be director in a multi room system 

Why? They have the same computing specs

3 hours ago, DawnGordon said:

Yes. But it will be fine for single room use. It’s designed to run an AV system, TV, or a theater - not a house.

Ok thanks. Surprised it is less powerful than an ea-1 since it is new but if they are really trying to keep it to one room then that makes sense. I ask because I see lots of people think you have to had to have an ea-3 or ea-5 for a whole home (when they were the latest controllers) when depending on what existing audio and other third party decides you had an ea-1 would have been plenty. Right now I have an ea-1 acting as my main controller and an ea-3 being used for audio only. Will probably switch the ea-1 for a CORE 1 and the ea-3 for a Sonos port when the time comes I have to upgrade. 

Is the CORE lite less powerful than an EA-1?

Is the core lite limited to 1 room in composer or is it just a suggestion?

I have a Roku Ultra at every one of my TV locations except one which is a TCL Roku TV. They just work. Nothing fancy but it gets the job done. I do have an Apple TV in my office as well and its definitely a better product but not enough to replace the Roku Ultra's with it everywhere. 

1 hour ago, Control4Savant said:

Not exactly. Unifi does not have any rear port switches for example. Network switches are all somewhat the same and usually pretty good by any brand. Now that Araknis routers have OVRC and a half decent firewall they are not an awful choice. Id still use a more advanced firewall.. so thats 3 brands. 

 

Network management software is really just for convenience. Most network parameters are universal. The macbook going to sleep doesnt cause APs to go offline.  I know this because I run lots of networks both ways. 

From what he is saying the aps are not going offline. He just can’t get the management software to connect. 

1 hour ago, BY96 said:

This is a very good point and my statement was over simplified. However, I believe the blue light indicates the AP is connected to both power and the main network connection. Per Unifi, a steady blue light is normal operating mode and the AP is broadcasting Wi-Fi. Also, I know that some devices are connected to the AP that appears disconnected in the Unifi controller (my Mac). 

So what is actually your issue? Is it that the Macbook you have the unifi network application running on is disconnecting to the AP's? If so this is probably due to the fact that the macbook goes to sleep. i dont think you really have a problem at all.

3 hours ago, Control4Savant said:

Because a lot of us pros don’t like those APs…

Whatever works then i guess but seems it would have been better to go with a full unifi setup and forget the Araknis if you are going to use their APs.

The recommendation of Araknis router and switch and then unifi aps was kind of strange. Why not just use Araknis aps or even Ruckus aps?