Godzilla Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 hey guys,need some help..........looking for some recommendations on 25ft ceiling using LED or CFL both dimmable ......i have 150w rated cans in the ceiling (currently using 120w halogen bulbs).but it seems the more i look into the led's or cfl's........the more confusing it gets.............anyone have a similiar layout, that they used.........looking for bulbs only......not looking to replace cans.thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chesterwilson Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 What size bulbs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin L Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 these work greathttp://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-202670532/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=led+flood&storeId=10051they look like a regular bulb and their color temp rocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chesterwilson Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 From 25 feet you are going to want as many equivalent watts as you can get, you are losing a lot of light on the way down. When possible go with spot lights rather than flood from that height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 What size bulbs?par 38's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebery Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 these work greathttp://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-202670532/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=led+flood&storeId=10051they look like a regular bulb and their color temp rocksThese are the exact bulbs I'm getting to replace the dimable cfls I have in my kitchen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted May 11, 2012 Author Share Posted May 11, 2012 i heard dimmable cfl's do not work well...........anyone using these with any success?also i also have some 10-14 ft ceilings would you use the same LED'S for that to........or would you go with the wide beam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chesterwilson Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 http://www.1000bulbs.com/product/63230/LED-PAR38241527.html ^ If you must go led, I would suggest these.I would personally go with warm 2700k CFL at that height though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted May 11, 2012 Author Share Posted May 11, 2012 http://www.1000bulbs.com/product/63230/LED-PAR38241527.html ^ If you must go led, I would suggest these.I would personally go with warm 2700k CFL at that height though.i would like to use cfl.......but i hear theres alot of problems with dimming.....maybe someone will chime in who has these installed, without a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alt Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Check out http://www.flexfireleds.com/ send them an email and they should be able to help you out. They have excellent customer service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 I have some Cree LR6C-DR1000 units. They dim smoothly to 20% and have great light output but they were relatively expensive. They also come in a warmer 2700K temp. They fit in my standard 6" cans. http://www.cree.com/~/media/Files/Cree/Lighting/Downlights/LR6%20DR1000/LR6DR1000.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebery Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 i heard dimmable cfl's do not work well...........anyone using these with any success?also i also have some 10-14 ft ceilings would you use the same LED'S for that to........or would you go with the wide beamWhat I did with dimable cfls was one tap full on. Double tab brought them down to 14% which was the lowest I could bring them to before they started to strobe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share Posted May 12, 2012 Thanks everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdigrego Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 these work greathttp://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-202670532/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=led+flood&storeId=10051they look like a regular bulb and their color temp rocksThese are the exact bulbs I'm getting to replace the dimable cfls I have in my kitchen.I have installed 30 of the dimmable LED's that you listed above, 3 LED's that are more like SPOTS, and 3 round bulb LED's in several rooms in my home and have been using them for about 6 months. So far I have really liked the http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-202670532/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=led+flood&storeId=10051 , I have used them to replace both 75 and 65 watt bulbs and from my experience, at 8 to 16 feet, they diffuse the light beam fairly well and have great color.Some of the issues that I have experienced with these bulbs are;LED bulbs require a minimum voltage to turn on the LED and there is a slight lag from the time you throw the switch to when the light comes on. The LED's I have used (3 different types) all respond in a similar way. When they are on a circuit that is controlled by an ON/OFF only switch (no dimming) there is a 1/4 to 1/2 second lag from the time you turn on the switch to the time that the lights turn on. Not a big deal, but it is noticable.I have not been able to use these bulbs in any rooms where I wanted dimming control below 20-25%, such as theater rooms, accent lighting and dimmed evening lighting. This may be my imagination, but I have also noted that I can operate these LED's at a lower dimmed state if I first bring them on to about 25% then dim them slowly from there, although they still turn off at around 18%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin L Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 to overcome the minimum on voltage you can correct that on the properties page of the dimmer so it gives more voltage when turning on you need to turn them on to full brightness then you can go all the way down to 5% with no issues what so ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdigrego Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 to overcome the minimum on voltage you can correct that on the properties page of the dimmer so it gives more voltage when turning on you need to turn them on to full brightness then you can go all the way down to 5% with no issues what so everThat's good to know I will play with the initial voltage setup a bit more to see if i can get them to dim more.Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdigrego Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Thanks Kevin L, After changing my switch configurations, I now have set cold start at 20%, minimum ON level at 5%, and changed my maximum ON from 85% to 100%. My EcoSmart Model ECS BR40 and BR30 bulbs now will dim to 5% as Kevin L stated. I guess I will give it another shot in my theater room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebery Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 to overcome the minimum on voltage you can correct that on the properties page of the dimmer so it gives more voltage when turning on you need to turn them on to full brightness then you can go all the way down to 5% with no issues what so everThanks Kevin. Great info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumult Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 My electrician just stopped over to take measurements for installing some somfy blinds. He also brought an assortment of led lights. We installed a par 30 tcp led in the bathroom where I had previously installed the Eco smart bulb mentioned above in the thread. Whereas the Eco smart took a second to turn on, the tcp turned on instantly. The tcp also dimmed to my satisfaction. It looks like the tcp can be had for $40 at amazon so it's more expensive than the Eco smart. tum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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