ILoveControl Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Hi guys and galsI am looking at purchasing a Air Conditioner I am currently looking at and would something like: http://www.samsung.com/za/consumer/home-appliances/air-conditioner/wall-mounted-type/AQ18VBANXFA/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&returnurl=What are the requirements so that I can control the AC via Control4 control:1. Turn on and off2. Control the temperature via C4 to the ACWhat do I need to look for etc,,,,..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveControl Posted October 12, 2010 Author Share Posted October 12, 2010 Hi guys,Surely someone has integrated a AC into C4 - all I need to know is what I need so I can use the heating and cooling interface via my iPad or other devices with the AC (before I buy the AC).Advise?C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 You just need a Control4 thermostat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveControl Posted October 12, 2010 Author Share Posted October 12, 2010 Would you please be so kind to just detail how it works...C4 -> R323 (or wireless) -> Thermostat -> R323 -> ACDoes the Thermostat control the AC via R323? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xc420 Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 The thermostat is hardwired to the A/C unit and Control4 sends zigbee commands to it. Are you sure you can easily add an external thermostat to the a/c unit you're looking at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveControl Posted October 12, 2010 Author Share Posted October 12, 2010 I don't know that's why I am asking these questions I want to know what specifications I need to make sure the AC has so that I can buy the Thermostat and get the installer (AC installer) to hard wire the external thermostat to it.Is that all - the AC needs to support an external thermostat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveControl Posted October 12, 2010 Author Share Posted October 12, 2010 these are the ones I am looking at: http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/home-appliances/air-conditioning/index.idx?pagetype=type Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xc420 Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 I'm not sure, sorry. Most air conditioning systems in the US are central A/C units with external thermostats, so it's just a matter of replacing the existing thermostat. I'm not sure how to go integrating other non-central A/C units like the ones you are looking at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xc420 Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 You should try to find the wiring diagram for the Control4 thermostat first and go over it with the A/C tech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveControl Posted October 12, 2010 Author Share Posted October 12, 2010 Thank you Anyone got the wiring specs for the C4 Thermostat ???? Dan? Alan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveControl Posted October 12, 2010 Author Share Posted October 12, 2010 Think I found the link to the wiring diagram just need someone to confirm with me please?Thankshttp://wiki.cytexone.com/download/attachments/6390162/Thermostat_IG+21-0170+-+Rev+A.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFUG Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Honestly, I would not go with a Control4 stat. There are many, many features on a typical split system that you won't be duplicating on a C4 stat. I own an LG 185 which is one of few that accept an external stat. That stat is less than the cost of C4 unit and duplicates over 15 functions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveControl Posted October 12, 2010 Author Share Posted October 12, 2010 Honestly, I would not go with a Control4 stat. There are many, many features on a typical split system that you won't be duplicating on a C4 stat. I own an LG 185 which is one of few that accept an external stat. That stat is less than the cost of C4 unit and duplicates over 15 functions.Thanks so much for that information!!!Does the LG 185 integrate into C4 can I use the C4 thermostat controls i.e. on the iPad does it update the temperature etc ??All about the integration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 What's R323? Do you mean RS-232?Here's how heating and cooling systems work here (at least how I see it).If you have a furnace a forced air, the furnace is used to push all the air through the house, both hot and cold. The air conditioning unit sits outside, and is wired to the furnace. The furnace is wired to a thermostat, which can call for hot or cold air. If you want to integrate with COntrol4 you replace your current thermostat with Control4's.Hopefully that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFUG Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 ^So how do you deal with fan speed, air flow and ventillation mode using a C4 stat? The whole point of my post above is to point out that going C4 on all but the very basic of split systems is taking the elevator down.OP, I hear you, you want everthing talkin to one-another. That's cool but I really don't think it'll be happening for you anytime soon. You can certainly find someone to clone the IR codes and build a driver though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 I don't have a Control4 T-Stat, I don't know much about them. I have zone system and haven't ponied up for the SAM.In the time I was typing my post (complete with distractions and a conference call) all those other posts came in.I guess just disregard what I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveControl Posted October 12, 2010 Author Share Posted October 12, 2010 What's R323? Do you mean RS-232?Here's how heating and cooling systems work here (at least how I see it).If you have a furnace a forced air, the furnace is used to push all the air through the house, both hot and cold. The air conditioning unit sits outside, and is wired to the furnace. The furnace is wired to a thermostat, which can call for hot or cold air. If you want to integrate with COntrol4 you replace your current thermostat with Control4's.Hopefully that makes sense.Yup dyslexia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janusz Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 If it helps Alan has wrote the driver for CoolMaster (cool master sits in between C4 and Mitsubishi AC). I have not used his driver it but I use CoolMaster 4000 with dynalite. and it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dharmesh Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Is there any way to control the Air conditioners like SAMSUNG, LG , TOSHIBA or any other line in Indian environment.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Guys,I've been thinking about this also. The problem is, I have not found a split system with an external thermostat to connect a C4 Tstat to.One dealer I meet told me he used c4 with IR to control a split system. Anyone else out there done this??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janusz Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 There is coolmaster for toshiba.http://www.coolautomation.com/productlist.htmland extravegetable has got driver for coolmaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowvo Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I have been running a C$ t-stat on my gas forced furnance and AC unit for 1 1/2 yrs now...has not skipped a beat. Biggest trouble was finding a GOOD heating guy to connect it up right. The C4 t-stat works great on forced forced air system...I wouldn't even attempt it on a heat pump, or a zone system...it is two flakey...Need to remember C4 is from Utah were most house only have gas furnaces and swamp coolers...any more advanced than that they dont work great at all. KEEP IT SIMPLE in order for the C4 t-stat to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatheed Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I have been running a C$ t-stat on my gas forced furnance and AC unit for 1 1/2 yrs now...has not skipped a beat. Biggest trouble was finding a GOOD heating guy to connect it up right. The C4 t-stat works great on forced forced air system...I wouldn't even attempt it on a heat pump, or a zone system...it is two flakey...Need to remember C4 is from Utah were most house only have gas furnaces and swamp coolers...any more advanced than that they dont work great at all. KEEP IT SIMPLE in order for the C4 t-stat to work.Heat pump is fine. Zone systems sometimes are not compatible as they don't use standard thermostats usually, but proprietary zone thermostats.Most of the homes in Utah with C4 do not use swamp coolers. Many of them have plenty advanced hybrid gas/electric heat/cool systems. The key is standard thermostat controllability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dharmesh Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 To integrate the normal AC WITH C4, you have to use COOL MASTER from www.extravegetable.com and that only works with VRV series of AC's from Mitsubishi, DAIKIN or HITACHI. For normal split AC, you have to do trial n error with remote to capture the IR commands from IR driver wizard.If any body have the solutions, please share the details.DP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumati Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 am looking for solution to connect c4 with split A/C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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