EverAction

16 minutes ago, mstafford388 said:

I can see where you would speculate those possible scenarios but that's really just not what's going on.  Control4 users probably make up less than 1/2 of a percent of sonos users if that.  So at the end of the day Sonos really does not care about the CI channel.  They'd rather have people using the sonos app so they can collect more data.  This isn't just a Control4 integration issue either, it's a limitation with the Sonos API which is the same for all other control systems so clearly it's not just the guys at control4 not having the right conversation.  The past several years Sonos has made it very clear with their actions that they have zero interest in supporting the CI channel, which you can't really blame them, they're really just a blip on the Sonos radar.  

I have to agree with this. Without giving too much detail the dealership I used to work with was directly involved with gettingthis partnership to fruition (the C4 / Sonos partnership, not SnapAV / Sonos). These issues were brought up to both sides on numerous occasions.

Lots of talk no resolution. And how much further can you go with getting the right people involved if its the top people?

57 minutes ago, eggzlot said:

i have programming about "low" but I am going to be traveling a bunch coming up and I wanted to know if I should proactively change the batteries.  Do not want issues if someone has to come over while I am traveling or my wife having to deal with the battery swap (its annoying to remove those tiny screws and stuff on the back cover)

I'll try the LUA/Action button and see if I can figure it out - thanks.

Best recommendation I can make, get these batteries:

https://www.amazon.com/Energizer-Ultimate-Lithium-Batteries-Pack/dp/B0023T8OUY/ref=sr_1_7?crid=N6ACW8K4KWDM&keywords=energizer+ultimate+lithium+aa&qid=1569599983&s=gateway&sprefix=energizer+ultimate+%2Caps%2C145&sr=8-7

You'll get a solid 2 years out of those batteries. And that's with everyday activation of the mechanical lock (at least twice a day). Compared to regular Duracells you'd be lucky to get 6 months.

1 hour ago, jakblak said:

Hi @EverAction, thanks for the feedback.  The bug with some of the icons missing is actually a bug in iOS that is fixed in 13.1.  In regards to the passcode/TouchID crash, I'll get my team on it and we'll get another build out and I'll post it here

Amazing! And if you need any feedback/testing feel free to lmk. Really appreciate you guys not forgetting about OS2.

14 hours ago, jakblak said:

Well, it took much longer than expected but the updated 2.10 app finally made it through the beta approval process.  You can access the beta version of the 2.10 app by clicking the link below and following the instructions to download TestFlight and install the app.  This version specifically addresses UI problems when rotating the app.  If there are other problems, please feel free to send me a PM, post here, or give feedback via TestFlight.

Thanks everyone

 

https://testflight.apple.com/join/EtAiX35m

Definitely appreciate these updates. I was worried the 2.10 app would be forgotten. The bugs I noticed is the Listen app icon not showing, the app not readjusting from Portrait, to Landscape, to Portrait again. And if you set the passcode on the App and lock it with TouchID, after a day or so when you go to the app it insta-crashes. Deleting the app and re-adding the system without setting a passcode with TouchID fixes the issue. So I've just left the passcode off for now.

29 minutes ago, eggzlot said:

I was in ComposerHE and did not see a battery level indication in the properties tab.  Is it not possible to view the battery level on these devices?

There's an action button that will spit out the battery level in the LUA output. But I'll give you a better method, because all you really want to know is when the battery is going to die.

Go into programming, and you can program off the action "When Battery is Low". Have it send an e-mail alert when that happens. That's what I do for my Kwikset.

37 minutes ago, time2jet said:

As most of you have heard I'm sure, SnapAv has announced that they are now a nationwide distributor of Sonos.  I'm curious if this may be a sign of more robust integration with C4?

Sonos & Control4 created a parternship back around 2016. Sonos would release an API and Control4 would make the driver. That went no where in terms of integration (in fact, many will argue the integration took a step back when they removed input switching that allowed a group of Sonos devices to act as a matrix, aka the switch from the HTTPS driver to the API driver). Sonos never bothered to add to the API to bring back features of the old driver that many dealers asked for, essentially leaving them out in the dust. Another bad example, Control4 still haven't modified the Sonos drivers for recent products that have been out for more than a year (2nd gen Amp and Beam). Those devices have two separate inputs that the driver doesn't know how to differentiate which causes its own issues. Don't know if Sonos is to blame for not adding it to their API or Control4's fault for never periodically checking for API changes with drivers they developed and implementing (Control4's driver development is a whole different soapbox I'm not going to get on at this time).

In short, don't hold your breath.

11 minutes ago, poseidonsystems said:

We'll, with 3.0 the hc200s are obsolete, right? 

You just replied to a post from 2009... Holy Necro Batman!

Make sure the Zigbee card installed in the broken one matches the cards in the working one. Maybe they sent you one lock with an incompatible Zigbee card.

I love my Sonos Beam, but for the setup you have you want the Playbar. The Beam would look silly under a TV that large.

On 9/10/2019 at 3:37 PM, EverAction said:

There is a "Read Meter" action within Composer for that driver that will output the usage on the individual outlets. However, there's no way to post it to the UI. Maybe it's possible to make a custom button that fires that action and e-mails the output to a destination? Not elegant, but would be functional.

EDIT: Maybe take this a step further for those with touchscreens, pasting the metered outlet output to a screen pop via a custom button?

A couple of people reached out to me for instructions on how to Identify the EcoGuard outlet so I scanned the document that came in the box and have attached it to this post. Please excuse the quality, the paper was creased from being packed in the box.

Also I took a closer look at my idea for being able to see the power usage on the outlets without going into Composer and its just not possible. While there is a programming action to Read Meter there is no where to "point" the output. And there are no variables available besides LIGHT_STATE to check for changes. Which brings me to my final observation. The only driver available for it definitely needs some work. I'm on 2.10.6 and from my iOS app when you view the light it always appears Off even though its On. Tapping it makes the UI catch up and then it toggles correctly from there, until you leave the room and go back in.

It's a c4i file so if I ever get bored maybe I'll poke around to figure it out. But for my usage it really isn't a big deal.

Telkonet EcoGuard Outlet Installation Guide.pdf

9 hours ago, Jane M. said:

If the AppleTV beta software was also bricking our C4 remotes (and there were a lot of betas i'm sure) why wasn't this more publicized? 

It would have been nice if C4, our dealers, or anyone would have told us not to install.  

Probably will take my dealer 2 weeks to get to me.  I guess i will use the Apple Remote.  Yuck.

This is all Apple’s fault with their shitty IP integration that necessitated this even shittier new version of the IP driver for Gen 4 AppleTVs.

Not sure why it’s Control4’s fault or responsibility to warn customers about a third party product that the customer may/may not own. Not to mention when the new IP driver was released they recommended everyone switch over ASAP as they would have no idea if/when Apple decided to kill it off functionality of the old IP driver.

Your anger is misdirected, this is all Apple’s fault. 

15 hours ago, videostorm said:

Here is the beta driver.  Please let me know what you find.

http://www.video-storm.com/downloads/npcloud.c4z

Currently working on a few nice features which will probably be ready in a week or so.

Is this limited to OS3 or will it work for 2.10.6 as well?

4sight, VPN, or don't bother. If you're as much as a novice if you need help with the port forwarding, then you most likely don't know that there is an extremely common password on the equipment that most dealers do not change

If you open this device to the Internet via Port Forward or DMZ, I guarantee it'll get hacked (or be enticing enough for someone to keep hammering away at it).

2 hours ago, drmark12pa said:

It seems C4 has a way of making their best product without functionality.  I can't see any reason they could not include inputs/outputs on such an expensive unit.  Instead, one HAS to have another controller for that.  I cannot understand why both the brains and the brawn so to speak cannot be combined in one unit..... 

My guess is the main point of this unit is to handle a larger processor load and provide redundancy. Redundancy being the bigger factor in regards to I/O. There's no way to make the I/O redundant, so that's most likely why it was left off the CA-10. Besides, the projects that are large enough to *require* a CA-10 most likely have plenty of I/O spread out across all devices besides the primary director. Finally, to keep costs down.

These conversations are like deja vu when the HC-1000 was announced. When everyone realized the performance boost the HC-1000 provided, the lack of I/O was completely forgiven and forgotten. Those complaining about no I/O on a CA-10 just don't get the product's purpose.

1 hour ago, SMHarman said:

Indeed. You also need redundant network switching at that point. My switch lost power with a flakey WB700 and that took out everything, lighting, blinds, everything on IP.

Sent from my E6603 using Tapatalk
 

A WattBox that's gone flaky? That NEVER happens! 

1 hour ago, BakerBalay said:

Was that for the Chowmain driver for TP-Link or the Telkonet? I added the Telkonet driver, but did not identify any outlets yet. Mine did not come with any instructions, unfortunately. I have used the TP-Link for some fun stupid things right now. Trying to make a viable energy automation package, but it has been difficult to get the information I need. Thus, I was wanting to test the TP Link HS-110 and the Telkonet Ecoguard.

I was talking about the Telkonet driver. I personally have not used the TP-Link outlet or Alan's driver for it.

38 minutes ago, BakerBalay said:

This is the HS110, and they work great with the Chowmain driver. I was looking for an in-wall version and was able to source the Telkonet. EverAction is right, really deep. And I was disappointed that the energy meter functions were not available. Would love to find a driver that exposes them.

There is a "Read Meter" action within Composer for that driver that will output the usage on the individual outlets. However, there's no way to post it to the UI. Maybe it's possible to make a custom button that fires that action and e-mails the output to a destination? Not elegant, but would be functional.

EDIT: Maybe take this a step further for those with touchscreens, pasting the metered outlet output to a screen pop via a custom button?

8 hours ago, Jayaredoubleu said:

EverAction - can you take full advantage of the features of the EcoGuard switch?   I am looking for an outlet that can do energy monitoring as well as control

I’ll take a look but IIRC the energy monitoring features it has aren’t really functional to Control4. I think the only way to pull that data is thru the WebUI of the Telkonet EcoCommander. You might want to check out what LollerAgent said.

Two more things to note....

1) This thing is deep. So if you have a lot of wires in the gang box, get ready to battle with getting it to fit in. It probably has another cm at least on a standard C4 Keypad Dimmer.

2) The LEDs are on if the outlet on. So if the outlet is in a visible spot, this can be a nuisance (doesn't bother me, but I remember my light sensitive customers who would have a fit if they saw this). I could have sworn the driver I used previously gave the ability to shut the LEDs off regardless of the outlet status, however the driver I posted earlier does not provide that options.

I might have a copy of the driver that has this feature, but it'll take me some time to search it out. I will update if I find it.

There was one being sold by Telkonet on Amazon. I was really shocked to see it and grabbed it immediately. Came from their warehouse in WI.

On 9/3/2019 at 8:19 PM, msgreenf said:

nope, they stopped selling them about 2 months ago

This further confirms my feelings on Axxess. They had really awesome looking products that were just always plagued with some kind of issue. Like when that firmware was around that it was draining the batteries in the Motion Detectors that you couldn't find anywhere, that was always a real treat. Or when the Dimmer module would decide to put on a spark show even though there was no short or over wattage issues...

That damn doorbell too.....

The EcoGuard worked! Attached  is a copy of the driver. The instructions to identify were also in the box on a printed paper (hold the join button for about 10 seconds and release when the top LED starts to rapidly blink red).

I got really lucky that coincidentally a single EcoGuard was available on Amazon this week:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VN8CZPQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Thanks again for the help all!

Telkonet_EcoGuard.zip

4 minutes ago, eggzlot said:

I use a wemo and IFTTT driver for a Christmas tree.  I have a Christmas mode in my house that changes the doorbell to Xmas themes as well as controlling switched outlets for exterior lights and the wemo for the tree. 

I’ll keep this in mind if I have a problem with the EcoGuard. I was trying to avoid buying hardware and software. If the EcoGuard works it’ll be cheaper in the long run.

Only problem I foresee is me forgetting the identification process on these and I can’t find the addendum for connecting it directly to Control4. I think it has a weird tap sequence, not your typical 4 tap. 

54 minutes ago, Matt Lowe said:

axxess has in line dimmers. what type of load?

 

Get ready to laugh...

Holidays are coming, this time around I’d like to have my Christmas tree on schedule with the rest of the lighting system instead of me constantly forgetting to unplug the tree. Lights in the tree are LED. Don’t know if Axxess makes a switch version but I’ve also had experiences with the dimmer version that made me stay away from them going forward.

5 minutes ago, msgreenf said:

well since you ruled out every other option  

you only have 3 routes: the single zigbee option, WiFi (recommend TPLink) or ZWave.

LOL yep that's what I figured from my day worth of searching, but wanted to make sure. By chance I did another search for a Telkonet EcoGuard after the initial post and found one for sale on Amazon. It's on the way. Also found the C4 driver on the dealer forums. When I get everything done I'll follow-up on here with the results and a copy of the driver.

Thanks!