Time2Jet Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Can anyone explain whether current C4 lighting (SW/APD) requires a minimum load? Im not finding that anywhere, other than the training and literature explained the type of load versus the min wattage draw. I’m a little gun shy moving from Caseta, because with that system I had a bunch of issues with LED’s not producing enough load. (I don’t recall exactly, but I feel like it was a 10w min). I have some ELV/MLV and some vanity light and exterior lanterns fixtures that I use LED bulbs in that only draw 5 watts. For those, I had to buy different Caseta devices to allow them to work. PS: I get dimmable vs non. That’s not the question. Thanks! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Switch has no minimum load Forward Phase Dimmer has a minimum load WITH a dedicated neutral of 4.5W Adaptive Phase Dimmer WITH neutral is 1W (yes ONE) If there is no neutral wire, dimmers can still be used (switches cannot) - the Forward Phase dimmer then has a minimum of 25W on Incandescent and Halogen, Adaptive Phase Dimmer has 7W in that scenario (should not wire without neutral on Fluorescent or LED on either) If you're at 5W I would recommend using Adaptive Phase, as usually 5W printing on a bulb isn't exactly accurate, and 4.5W is very near that limit. Time2Jet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time2Jet Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 Excellent As always, great info @CyknightI’m also bumping my KD problem post if you don’t mind looking. Something is either haywire or I need to call a paranormal team in. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopedogg88 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Another option, in a pinch, is to use these https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E9F084E/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Time2Jet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time2Jet Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 Another option, in a pinch, is to use thesehttps://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E9F084E/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1Yes, Ari. Thank you. I used the MLC capacitors and they worked in almost every case with the Caseta. But I’m moving to all C4 lighting. I’m likely going to sell a ton of Caseta. I love it, but I need the Zigbee mesh benefit of C4 lighting. I’m keeping some Picos for bedside, table side lamp control and such. Easier to press a button than a bunch of button presses and scrolling on an SR or opening my app. And they’re far less expensive than other solutions. I gotta say, for the price... the Caseta is a crazy good system. I had it prior to C4 and I loved the app. But if you’re a C4 home, C4 lighting is amazing. The mesh, the programming possibilities, the beautiful programmable LEDs and the added benefit that they handle nearly any load (small or big) and look great too. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk chopedogg88 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LollerAgent Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 A bit off-topic here, but since you mentioned how beautiful the programmable LED's are.. I finally just got around to adding some engraved buttons to my KD-120's. I'm a bit disappointed with the light bleed issues at times. Some keypads are worse than others, but almost all of them bleed a little bit of the backlight and the LED lights to other buttons. I can also see the light bleed out from the wall plate (I don't use the official C4 wallplates). I don't have any multi-gang C4 keypads/switches, but if I did, I would also be worried about the uniformity of backlight/LED's between different switches/keypads. This problem has been reported on these forums a few times already. Time2Jet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopedogg88 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I haven't used those capacitors with Control4 to be honest, but there is nothing about them that is Lutron specific other than being made by Lutron. I understand from reading this thread that you are moving to Control4 lighting! Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk Time2Jet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time2Jet Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 A bit off-topic here, but since you mentioned how beautiful the programmable LED's are.. I finally just got around to adding some engraved buttons to my KD-120's. I'm a bit disappointed with the light bleed issues at times. Some keypads are worse than others, but almost all of them bleed a little bit of the backlight and the LED lights to other buttons. I can also see the light bleed out from the wall plate (I don't use the official C4 wallplates). I don't have any multi-gang C4 keypads/switches, but if I did, I would also be worried about the uniformity of backlight/LED's between different switches/keypads. This problem has been reported on these forums a few times already.Interesting. Following this. I’ve have some engraving on the way. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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