fff Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 The developer of a C4-compatible 240VAC 20A relay is deciding whether to invest in the testing and certification necessary to bring a prototype to market. Is it appropriate to describe the device in this forum and ask its readers if they have applications for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Is this for the US market or Europe. I can think of two uses for this device for me in NA - to control my swimming pool pump which is 240V. Second is to control the water heater in my pool cabana. I only have the water heater turn on by default on weekends from 10-10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fff Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share Posted December 1, 2020 It would be rolled out in North America first. Europe is a future possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Heh, I could use one for a heater tomorrow. Seriously. Oh and this is an open USER forum, though there are numerous dealers on here too (such as myself). I don't see why it would be inappropriate to discuss a potential product here, just know that this is a public forum, so you may not want to give too much away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fff Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 Has the heater its own thermostat or are you using the C4 system to regulate temperature? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smccray Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Is there some benefit to a c4 integrated relay vs a dumb relay/contactor with either a 12v trigger or even a 110v trigger and an essential switch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanchow Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Control4 used to have something simliar. The heavy duty power controller. Don't think it was used that often. It might be worth reaching out to Quyen or Noel from Control4 to discuss the viability of the product in their market. https://www.control4.com/docs/product/heavy-duty-power-controller/professional-wiring-guide/english/latest/heavy-duty-power-controller-professional-wiring-guide-rev-a.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 8 hours ago, fff said: Has the heater its own thermostat or are you using the C4 system to regulate temperature? It would be on/off control with setting on the heater for temp with an external sensor for safety override Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 3 hours ago, smccray said: Is there some benefit to a c4 integrated relay vs a dumb relay/contactor with either a 12v trigger or even a 110v trigger and an essential switch? Ease. What you're describing is something we're looking to do now, but if there was a ZigBee or even WiFi device that did it, it would be a lot easier (and means forgoing potential rewiring, electricians and so on). 43 minutes ago, alanchow said: Control4 used to have something simliar. The heavy duty power controller. Don't think it was used that often. It might be worth reaching out to Quyen or Noel from Control4 to discuss the viability of the product in their market. https://www.control4.com/docs/product/heavy-duty-power-controller/professional-wiring-guide/english/latest/heavy-duty-power-controller-professional-wiring-guide-rev-a.pdf Which is a fair point, though if it's ABLE to work in C4, but not focused solely on them, it would be a matter of finding a distribution channel that caters to C4 dealers and it could boost the overall product sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fff Posted December 3, 2020 Author Share Posted December 3, 2020 It has other features, like power monitoring for up to two loads. I've heard no objections to doing market research here, so I'll post a draft data sheet early next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanchow Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 3 hours ago, fff said: It has other features, like power monitoring for up to two loads. I've heard no objections to doing market research here, so I'll post a draft data sheet early next week. Just make sure that you are not breaching any non disclosure agreements by posting that information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR2 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Want to buy ZCA-HPC10A-ZP Card Access Heavy-Duty Power Controller - Wanted / For Sale - c4forums | The Control4 Community On 4/12/2016 at 10:46 AM, mojo8772 said: Well putting a reply out there for anyone who runs into this. So I did get this installed back in 2016 and I've now completed another installation where we used this device to control a 6,6 KV sauna heater. It works well and is reliable. The only weird programming issue I ran against is that since each relay controls 110 I had to tie the two together in composer for the 220 output -- Im unsure if there is a better way to setup. The product has now been discontinued by control4 and so thats all for my update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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