qVAMPIREp Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Yes, that could be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qVAMPIREp Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 So if Control4 is a member of the Zigbee Alliance and SmartThings supports Zigbee shouldn't SmartThings see all of Control4's dimmers etc automatically? If not, shouldn't Control4 be kicked out of the Zigbee alliance for noncompliance of its devices?http://www.control4.com/blog/2013/08/geeking-out-why-zigbee-home-automation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pstuart Posted June 19, 2014 Author Share Posted June 19, 2014 Not exactly... You do need to pair a ZigBee device with something. Should hue get kicked out because their ZigBee light has to pair with their controller?I haven't had time, vacation, to test to see if SmartThings can see a control4 ZigBee device. But there should be no way for SmartThings or any other ZigBee controller to see another mesh due to security. I assume I would have to have one of my ZigBee c4 devices leave the mesh, enter pairing mode and then see if SmartThings sees it. But will probably have to write a custom ZigBee driver in SmartThings for it. Will play more when I get back this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 This looks/sounds really cool. Sent from my Droid MAXX via Tapatalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qVAMPIREp Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Not exactly... You do need to pair a ZigBee device with something. Should hue get kicked out because their ZigBee light has to pair with their controller?I haven't had time, vacation, to test to see if SmartThings can see a control4 ZigBee device. But there should be no way for SmartThings or any other ZigBee controller to see another mesh due to security. I assume I would have to have one of my ZigBee c4 devices leave the mesh, enter pairing mode and then see if SmartThings sees it. But will probably have to write a custom ZigBee driver in SmartThings for it. Will play more when I get back this weekend.That would be very interesting indeed if possible. Great work on this stuff!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanchow Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Control4's zigbee device's utilise the standard Zigbee HA stack with an additional control4 specific cluster dedicated to things like identification, health status reporting and more. At least thats what i've found. Having said that though if someone wanted to write a driver that parsed control of control4 lighting and accepted an inbound connection from a 3rd party service. That too would work. I did this for a savant to control4 gateway driver i wrote a few years back that allows savant to control control4 lighting with feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pstuart Posted June 22, 2014 Author Share Posted June 22, 2014 Well, not a good start for the 2nd kit order. Amazon sent the wrong kit, missing half the pieces. Now lets see how good customer support really is. I want to play with it tomorrow but if I have to send the whole kit back and get the right kit then this will suck... Oh well, at least I'm home and time to destroy a 1000 beyond recognition to release my illustration... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pstuart Posted June 22, 2014 Author Share Posted June 22, 2014 Jackal, if you would have read the thread, you would have seen that their support is actually active... I don't want to send it back, just get the other parts that are missing...I have dealt with amazon at many different levels, this isn't about amazon. It's about smart things and their amazing customer service so far. This will be a test, but one I am sure of a positive outcome, which might include shipping back to amazon if needed...It was just a wrong sticker on a box, but the missing pieces are sold individually that smartthings could easily send to me separately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pstuart Posted June 22, 2014 Author Share Posted June 22, 2014 Wow, customer support on a Saturday night. Unfortunately they can't make the call, have to wait for someone higher to make the call. Stupid mislabeled box from amazon slowing down my play time with this. I left my original kit in Wyoming at my dad's place. I am impressed at their support, just seems stupid to have to send a kit, that literally ships in a white box with retail sku's in it back to get another white box with all the right sku's in it. How hard would it be for someone to just send me the missing 3 sku's and give me the go ahead to add this hub and get started? I don't need an extra presence sensor, an outlet switch and multi-sensor today, I can wait for those. I just want to get the hub online and work on integrating control4 into it. If I have to wait another week... Oh well. At least I have a 1000 to destroy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qVAMPIREp Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Yeah, it's a problem for them with tracking stuff, refunds, taxes etc. Amazon is just a giant warehouse complex so no one to fix it there for sure. What are you going to do to the 1000? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMHarman Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 You will be better dealing with Amazon RMA and maybe spending 2.99 on next day shipping. Sent from my LT26i using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pstuart Posted June 22, 2014 Author Share Posted June 22, 2014 Wonderful customer service, they even work weekends! They are going to ship me the missing pieces and I can get started today on my project. These guys have it figured out. Now on to seeing if I can pair a C4 zigbee device with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qVAMPIREp Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Wonderful customer service, they even work weekends! They are going to ship me the missing pieces and I can get started today on my project. These guys have it figured out. Now on to seeing if I can pair a C4 zigbee device with it I guess they actually realize who their customers are.... Good luck! It will be very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pstuart Posted June 22, 2014 Author Share Posted June 22, 2014 Well, got the Card Access Sensor to pair with the Smart Things Hub. I can see all the zigbee hex code getting sent, but from here, I am lost. Of course there is no documentation on Card Access commands, and the Control4 driver is encrypted so I can't easily hook it up. But this is progress. I'm not an expert in Zigbee by any means, but this is very promising, just have to find out how to poll and communicate with the zigbee device and parse the polling responses. Next I'll try a control4 keypad and see if I can get that to pair. That might be a much simplier control interface, on / off. I wonder if the double and triple taps register on the device or just controller side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qVAMPIREp Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I wish I had a copy of ComposerPro it would be fun to play around like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I wish I had a copy of ComposerPro it would be fun to play around like that.I'm pretty sure that none of what he's doing requires Composer Pro. Sent from my Droid MAXX via Tapatalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pstuart Posted June 22, 2014 Author Share Posted June 22, 2014 Nope, at least not right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Technically, to pair devices he does need ComposerPro. RyanE Edited to Add: I'm an idiot. Of course, he's pairing it with the SmartThings device, no ComposerPro needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pstuart Posted June 23, 2014 Author Share Posted June 23, 2014 lol, Ryan, no problems. I'm bummed out at the moment, no socket support so no unofficial API method to query Control4. Now its down to writing a driver on Control4 to do this and push it on request. Is there any future plans (that can be shared) to have an actual REST API via HTTP like every other modern system out there for Control4? Or even authentication to the current one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanchow Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 lol, Ryan, no problems. I'm bummed out at the moment, no socket support so no unofficial API method to query Control4. Now its down to writing a driver on Control4 to do this and push it on request. Is there any future plans (that can be shared) to have an actual REST API via HTTP like every other modern system out there for Control4? Or even authentication to the current one? Control4 has serversockets wihch enables a developer to pretty much make any inbound tcp/ip connection he wants. This includes restrful API's via HTTP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pstuart Posted June 23, 2014 Author Share Posted June 23, 2014 Yeah, was hoping to use the c4soap api on port 5020 instead of writing my own HTTP API via a driver... If you would be willing to talk about your past efforts, I'd love some pointers. Sounds like you have already tackled this type of integration before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanchow Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Yup you use server sockets and implement HTTP parsing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pstuart Posted June 23, 2014 Author Share Posted June 23, 2014 Lol, thanks. I assume from that response you aren't really wanting to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanchow Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 It's not an easy task not is it easy to explain however that is essentially how you do it summed up in one sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qVAMPIREp Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Time to roll out XBMC4... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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