twmoonly Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 In the panelized lighting do you have to save room for the din-pas, network switch, din 485 to network? This will take up 2 spaces out of the 5 of a 5 module panel. Who here has installed these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 More than one way to do this. If using wired keypads, then yes you'll need the ethernet bridge and the powersupply, both of which are half-rail din mounted.You CAN use the rail mounted network switch, but it's just a network switch. You can either use another switch outside of the panel - or better yet just run home-runs for each piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMHarman Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 6 home run Ethernet pulls negates the cost and need for the switch in the panel and gives room for 32 lighting loads! Usually enough. More than that you will want a 2 panel on another floor to reduce your electricians copper costs pulling all that wire back to the panel. You really need to work on this with an Electrician to balance the cost of theit labor with the cost of a second panel if you have more than 2 floors in the house. Also it is worth considering some zigbee keypads instead of the pannelized ones. It helps the zigbee mesh in the home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twmoonly Posted October 25, 2015 Author Share Posted October 25, 2015 6 home run Ethernet pulls negates the cost and need for the switch in the panel and gives room for 32 lighting loads! Usually enough. More than that you will want a 2 panel on another floor to reduce your electricians copper costs pulling all that wire back to the panel.You really need to work on this with an Electrician to balance the cost of theit labor with the cost of a second panel if you have more than 2 floors in the house.Also it is worth considering some zigbee keypads instead of the pannelized ones. It helps the zigbee mesh in the home.Thanks, The electricians are done and I have 21 loads in a 5 slot panel. I am going to do home runs with my networking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Also it is worth considering some zigbee keypads instead of the pannelized ones. It helps the zigbee mesh in the home. Indeed. Using the infrastructure for keypads as you've pulled it now, you can use both, or even change over to all wireless/zigbee keypads as they can be powered by the same powersupply as the wired ones (that's right they can be powered line level voltage as well as low voltage) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMHarman Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Ps the 6th home run is a spare.You could split as you only need 10/100 but a spare is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Stout Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 If you are going for Panelized Lighting, just use Lutron and integrate it into C4....Panelized Lighting by C4 isn't up to par yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 If you are going for Panelized Lighting, just use Lutron and integrate it into C4....Panelized Lighting by C4 isn't up to par yet. Up to what par? It's working perfectly fine everywhere I've got it installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMHarman Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 If you are going for Panelized Lighting, just use Lutron and integrate it into C4....Panelized Lighting by C4 isn't up to par yet.Watcha talkin' 'bout Willis?Even my sceptic gc sparkie loved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Stout Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 My electricians found it simple to wire....That's not the issue. It's just not as stable as Lutron. I know, I am on a C4 Forum talking about Lutron over Control4. I'm just giving my personal experience as a pinnacle dealer in residential and doing hospitality - my firm choice is still Lutron over the C4 panelized Lighting then just integrate the Lutron into C4....But...I assume my opinion (MY OPINION) and experiences doesn't matter and yet it should open the door to criticism. Now I have to respond to my Opinion on the WMB not working correctly for the past two years its been out until they did their giant firmware update.... Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I was actually just asking a question, but sure.Oh and the fixed WMB firmware has been out for some time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMHarman Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 My opinion is that c4 panelized is great. YMV clearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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