Dueport Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 I’m looking to buy a used, working C4-16AMP3-B and I found one but it has the older C4 logo. It is the same model name as the current model and I don’t see any revisions. Do the only difference appears to be the logo which I don’t mind because it would be in a rack anyway. Is this device current and would you all recommend purchasing or should I steer clear of a matrix amplifier with the older logo? Or maybe a used matrix amp altogether? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 I would stay away from the old amp matrix as they do have a failing power supply problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dueport Posted December 19, 2020 Author Share Posted December 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, msgreenf said: I would stay away from the old amp matrix as they do have a failing power supply problem. Very helpful to know thank you Mitch - probably saved me a lot of headaches! So the ones with the current logo don’t seem to have that power supply issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 I would by looking at the triad line and not the combo amp matrix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dueport Posted December 19, 2020 Author Share Posted December 19, 2020 33 minutes ago, msgreenf said: I would by looking at the triad line and not the combo amp matrix Is that because the combo has more hardware problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 7 hours ago, Dueport said: Is that because the combo has more hardware problems? the combo isn't current and modern. The triad sounds better, has better volume control and is made better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMHarman Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 The 4 zone matrix seems to be rock solid. The 8 zone less so but better than the PAMP that followed. I sold a rock solid 4 zone matrix on eBay and bought another recently. My other system had a 16ch matrix B which is soon up for sale and and AMX 8 zone class d that looks a lot like the triad amp. The matrix only came out because a triad 8 zone matrix appears for cents on the dollar on eBay and I snapped that up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dueport Posted December 30, 2020 Author Share Posted December 30, 2020 On 12/20/2020 at 11:01 PM, SMHarman said: The 4 zone matrix seems to be rock solid. The 8 zone less so but better than the PAMP that followed. I sold a rock solid 4 zone matrix on eBay and bought another recently. My other system had a 16ch matrix B which is soon up for sale and and AMX 8 zone class d that looks a lot like the triad amp. The matrix only came out because a triad 8 zone matrix appears for cents on the dollar on eBay and I snapped that up. Thank you - so have you found that the C4 Matrix amps are more rock solid for you than the Triad Power Amps? So for you the C4 Matrix Amps have been ok? To @msgreenf's point re sound quality and volume control - that's worth considering for sure - also noticed that the Triads seem to do autosensing which may be good for alexa or josh down the road.... Have to say that the cost of the matrix amps is very tempting over the Triads but I don't want to waste money either.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 17 hours ago, Dueport said: have you found that the C4 Matrix amps are more rock solid for you than the Triad Power Amps? The Triads so far have been rock-solid, it's the older Control4 POWER amps that have longevity issues. The old C4 MATRIX amp on the other hand seems night indestructible to my experience as well - nor am I aware of them having a major issue? Second hand is always a risk of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dueport Posted December 31, 2020 Author Share Posted December 31, 2020 6 hours ago, Cyknight said: The Triads so far have been rock-solid, it's the older Control4 POWER amps that have longevity issues. The old C4 MATRIX amp on the other hand seems night indestructible to my experience as well - nor am I aware of them having a major issue? Second hand is always a risk of course. Really helpful - thank you! So just to make sure I’m going down the right path - the old C4 Matrix amp would be the ones with the older logo and model numbers C4-16AMP3-B or the C4-8AMP1-B? The older C4 Power Amp model number is C4-AMP108? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Dueport said: The older C4 Power Amp model number is C4-AMP108? Yes, or 104 for the 4-zone. The matrix amps may have the newer logo too in some cases (the newest ones basically) but they'll all have a different appearance (the oldest are completely different, the newer ones will have the rounded look, all will have a LCD screen and round knob on the front) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dueport Posted December 31, 2020 Author Share Posted December 31, 2020 8 hours ago, Cyknight said: Yes, or 104 for the 4-zone. The matrix amps may have the newer logo too in some cases (the newest ones basically) but they'll all have a different appearance (the oldest are completely different, the newer ones will have the rounded look, all will have a LCD screen and round knob on the front) thank you for your help - really appreciate it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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