slim42dog Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Has anyone tried controlling their LG OLEDs there the serial connection on the TV? I have it set up with IP Control, but having reliability issues with switching inputs upon startup which I put in a different thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew luecke Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 is cec turned off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLOGIC Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 to get past the input switching on startup, I turned on always on, but blank screen and quick start. works fine for me now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slim42dog Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 CEC is turned off on all my inputs. I wouldn't have this issue if my receiver was a 2.1 receiver, but it's not and I'm not going to replace the integral R1 just to go 2.1 at this point. My inputs on TV are APPLE TV, XBOX, PS5 and RECEIVER. Receiver covers the switch, c4 on screen, and Luma Cameras. I wanted Apple, xbox and ps5 to have 2.1 ports as they all support the higher refresh rates. Just looking into alternative control options if I can't figure out the IP Control issue with switching inputs on start up. It's odd, cuz it works if you turn the tv off then back on it switches no problem. only when in standby for awhile. I'd prefer to keep always ready off if I can, just to limit the power usage. Supposedly thats what Quick Start+ is for lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 ? Quikstart+ leaves all aps running in the background - it won't lower your power usage at all. In fact it will RAISE it. Also it's pretty well known to cause any number of issues with hanging apps, slow apps and slow webos interface.. Turn that junk off..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 sorry double post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 PS quickstart is NOT required for IP control - but if you have issues, we've never had problems with serial control on LG OLEDs to date (other than figuring out the cable type) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slim42dog Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 Speaking of cable type… any suggestions? Issue I have is my ea controller is about 30 feet away from tv. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 cable type is more a matter of null vs straight. For this I'd suggest using a basic z wire (security device cable) - 4 conductors is all (actually 3) you should need and they're a bit beefier than cat cable. at it's an unclocked connection, 30f shouldn't be an issue. If using a EA or Core controller, it's easiest to use a 3.5mm stereo cable, connect it to the wire you ran color to color and use the EEA/Core option to change the output between null and straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slim42dog Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 was talking to my dealer earlier .. what's your thought of this? https://www.amazon.com/Serial-Ethernet-Adapter-Cable-2pcs-2-Cable/dp/B0811RHPLJ/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=rs232%2Bto%2Bethernet&qid=1674159046&sr=8-4&th=1 paired with - https://lgparts.com/products/ead62707902 at the TV end.. then another one at the EA Controller end. What you suggested may be easier though. for 3.5mm stereo cable, is that just a basic stereo cable you can get off amazon? appreciate your help. If I can get this to work, I'd prefer this over IP Control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 LOL yes you could use all that I suppose, but if you have a cable there or are pulling one, using a stereo plug is going to be MUCH easier. Yes you could use a standard cable from amazon, or most 'pro' is getting some ends: https://a.co/d/1AcNnKZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 To be clear: I'm assuming you have an EA or Core series controller serial/IR combo port available so you can go 3.5 to 3.5 This is simplest as you just match color to color on the end and use the controller's ability to switch between null (cross) or straight serial output. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slim42dog Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 I have an EA5 it will be connecting into. Project is run via CA10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 So if htat EA has a port free on 1 2 or 3 (or if one of those ports is just using IR and you have another port available to move that too to free up one of them) going 3.5 to 3.5 direct is a lot simpler. Less parts, cleaner and the built in option of not having to worry about what type of serial connectivity there is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slim42dog Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 Good point.. and if I use a serial connection, can I disable things like quickstart+ and mobile on etc? My DRX R1 is configured with serial connection and it's rock solid. hoping if I go serial route, no issues there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slim42dog Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 per my c4 dealer, quickstart+ is required for IP Control. something along the lines of if its not enabled, there may be a 30 sec hold when powering up TV for it to receive commands. What's odd is I feel like thats still happening, as the command to switch input is very inconsistent on booting up the tv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnicholson Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 I have one older (2017) LG OLED and went with IR controls. We used an unused Coax cable in the wall to connect back to controller and it works great. I don't think it can launch mini-apps, however. But not sure if you can with serial either. IDK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slim42dog Posted January 21, 2023 Author Share Posted January 21, 2023 I use an Apple TV for all my streaming apps. I don’t use the built in apps so not a big deal to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 11:17 AM, slim42dog said: per my c4 dealer, quickstart+ is required for IP Control. something along the lines of if its not enabled, there may be a 30 sec hold when powering up TV for it to receive commands. What's odd is I feel like thats still happening, as the command to switch input is very inconsistent on booting up the tv. The same dealer that's suggesting 3 piece of cable... Quickstart is intended to start up apps faster, has little to do with TV startup (it may delay it by a second or two). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slim42dog Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 Cyknight, I got the security cable, ran that to the TV and Rack and bought those 3.5 MM ends you sent me. talk about an easy install. Waiting on tomorrow for them to do the programming. Anything to know ahead of time besides setting if its straight or null? There's nothing on the LG that needs to be enabled to accept serial commands? excited to try this method out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Nice. As for allowing serial, off the top of my head there's a setting somewhere to allow it yes it'll be in the hidden menu - just google lg hidden menu to find how to get there. As for null or straight, well it's so simple to change it on an EA is not even worth trying to figure it out beforehand....literally a click. But MOST of them should be null Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slim42dog Posted January 27, 2023 Author Share Posted January 27, 2023 Up and running in no time. There was nothing needed on the TV end to enable serial, just had to update in the driver to command over serial vs IP. Simple, wish I could have done it now I'm planning to switch my other OLED upstairs to work over serial as well. Thx again for the tip on the security wire and termination ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Glad to hear it worked out well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.