drmark12pa Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 I have finally gotten around to updating my macro for keypad backlighting in my new house. I normally have backlighting white but programming to change to green if any of my 3 garage doors is open so I know if they are open while indoors. However, there seems to be some major lag and some keypads aren't changing as they should with the programming. I'm attaching screenshots of the programming for garage door open or closed as well as the macro. Not sure if this is processing speed issue or something else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpencerT Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Any change in speed if you do 2 separate macros? (1 for open, 1 for close)? I would guess the issue may be with all your ifs at the end (it's circling the whole list each time). I'd either try 2 macros, or ifs for each keypad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Use the LED wizard neil12011 and Matt Lowe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drmark12pa Posted December 16, 2023 Author Share Posted December 16, 2023 17 hours ago, SpencerT said: Any change in speed if you do 2 separate macros? (1 for open, 1 for close)? I would guess the issue may be with all your ifs at the end (it's circling the whole list each time). I'd either try 2 macros, or ifs for each keypad. I might try 2 macros or 2 separate statements. It shouldn't have to circle as it's saying IF any of my 3 garage doors is open then change the backlight color on these keypads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drmark12pa Posted December 16, 2023 Author Share Posted December 16, 2023 15 hours ago, msgreenf said: Use the LED wizard I don't believe I've used that before. Can you shed some info on how that would work? Is it under Agents? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 34 minutes ago, drmark12pa said: I don't believe I've used that before. Can you shed some info on how that would work? Is it under Agents? No. It's a driver your dealer has to install. Once installed it's pretty self explanatory drmark12pa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 15 hours ago, msgreenf said: Use the LED wizard @drmark12pa - well worth using this driver for what you are doing! Saves (condenses) lots of programming. drmark12pa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Lowe Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 deff needs to break up the commands with some delays. But the led wizard would be much better for this and is what i switched my programming to when the driver was released. drmark12pa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drmark12pa Posted December 23, 2023 Author Share Posted December 23, 2023 On 12/16/2023 at 1:59 PM, msgreenf said: No. It's a driver your dealer has to install. Once installed it's pretty self explanatory I did get the LEDWizard installed and it looks to be working (and is awesome) as I have a macro that uses the Wizard to change the backlight to green when any garage door open. I'm just wondering is the placement of the LEDWizard in my setup correct? It's listed in programming and not under AGENTS. Is this the correct location as it does seem to be working but I thought it was going to be under AGENTS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Yes, it's a driver and likely should be redone as an agent but it predates the agent philosophy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drmark12pa Posted December 23, 2023 Author Share Posted December 23, 2023 3 hours ago, msgreenf said: Yes, it's a driver and likely should be redone as an agent but it predates the agent philosophy Will it function the same or is there any issue with leaving it as is so I don't have to have dealer do it over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 36 minutes ago, drmark12pa said: Will it function the same or is there any issue with leaving it as is so I don't have to have dealer do it over? This is the only driver. I'm just saying they should make it an agent. You are 100% using it the correct way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drmark12pa Posted December 24, 2023 Author Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 hour ago, msgreenf said: This is the only driver. I'm just saying they should make it an agent. You are 100% using it the correct way When using it as an Agent (vs. how I have it in my AV Rack room as a device), are you able to name a scene or what would be the functional difference? I was planning on doing some programming with it tonight but didn't want to have to redo it as my dealer has some installers coming out this week to change my theater screen mounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 There is no agent version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drmark12pa Posted December 26, 2023 Author Share Posted December 26, 2023 @msgreenf I've made a command for when any of 3 garage doors open which turns all the keypad backlights to green.. Then when a door closes it checks if the other 2 garage doors are closed (example when Garage Door 1 is closed, (PROGRAMMING) If Garage Door 2 AND Garage Door 3 are closed then LED Wizard command to turn them all white again. However, I'm noticing some of them don't revert to White so I'm wondering if it's because there are so many keypads and my EA5 is lagging? I'm looking at possibly upgrading system to add a CA10 as once in awhile I have some lags here and there based on how large my system has become.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Not sure. That should work. Even w lag it should work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 An upgrade to a CA10 is well worth it but I don’t think that will fix this problem. This sounds like either a zigbee error or a programming error (could be something as simple as 2 garage doors closing shortly after each other and commands not firing quite in the order you expect). My guess would be that this is a programming error and I would suggest starting a 30 second timer when the doors close and then checking the state of the 3 doors when the timer expires in order to determine the backlight colour. If this works and is stable, you can reduce the 30 seconds. Another thing to check is whether composer shows the same backlight colour as you are seeing in the real world. If not, then it may be a zigbee error (although I don’t think that is likely). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Lowe Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 depends on how many devices you are sending this command to. i would suggest starting with a small group of devices and then seconds later blast the other groups. i have about 30 devices and occasionally some of my devices miss the command and don't switch. could also just choose one or two devices in each room to change the backlight on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drmark12pa Posted December 27, 2023 Author Share Posted December 27, 2023 I was considering just having a delay and repeat the command to hit the keypads that didn't change as what I am seeing is different keypads not reverting at least right away to original white backlight color. It seems like they change back eventually however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 22 hours ago, drmark12pa said: I was considering just having a delay and repeat the command to hit the keypads that didn't change as what I am seeing is different keypads not reverting at least right away to original white backlight color. It seems like they change back eventually however. Timer is a much better option (almost always) than a delay). There can be delays on backlight changes (I think LED and backlight changes are a low priority on the Zigbee command stack). But the delay shouldn’t be more than a few seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Lowe Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 On 12/27/2023 at 2:52 PM, drmark12pa said: I was considering just having a delay and repeat the command to hit the keypads that didn't change as what I am seeing is different keypads not reverting at least right away to original white backlight color. It seems like they change back eventually however. yes likely just the zigbee network being flooded. Just try doing a group of devices delay 5 seconds then another group delay another. keep breaking them up into smaller groups until you get the desired results. unless the zigbee project is absolutely massive 3-4 groups should do well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drmark12pa Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 On 12/28/2023 at 4:36 PM, Matt Lowe said: yes likely just the zigbee network being flooded. Just try doing a group of devices delay 5 seconds then another group delay another. keep breaking them up into smaller groups until you get the desired results. unless the zigbee project is absolutely massive 3-4 groups should do well. I broke down to 3 groups for each floor of the house but I'm seeing a lag in the response of the rest of the system while the change over to different light is made back to white when garage doors close. It's odd as it seems when a garage door opens (backlight LEDs go green) no lag. However, when garage doors close (backlight LEDs go back to white) there seems to be a lag in how the rest of system will respond (ie keypad buttons bound to a light won't trigger light, Alexa commands won't trigger though Alexa says "Ok"). I will try to break up the groups further or decrease the pads turning as I don't know that I need every single keypad in the house to necessarily change to green to indicate a garage door is open.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 4 hours ago, drmark12pa said: I broke down to 3 groups for each floor of the house but I'm seeing a lag in the response of the rest of the system while the change over to different light is made back to white when garage doors close. It's odd as it seems when a garage door opens (backlight LEDs go green) no lag. However, when garage doors close (backlight LEDs go back to white) there seems to be a lag in how the rest of system will respond (ie keypad buttons bound to a light won't trigger light, Alexa commands won't trigger though Alexa says "Ok"). I will try to break up the groups further or decrease the pads turning as I don't know that I need every single keypad in the house to necessarily change to green to indicate a garage door is open.... Sounds like something else is hanging your system when you close the garage door. Maybe have your dealer check CPU usage when the garage door closes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drmark12pa Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 32 minutes ago, South Africa C4 user said: Sounds like something else is hanging your system when you close the garage door. Maybe have your dealer check CPU usage when the garage door closes. There isn't anything else that changes when it closes as the sensor was just recently installed and prior to that I had the relay only and no delay in system response right after garage closed (I would tell Alexa to turn off or on garage lights and no delay vs. now there is the delay.... weird....) I'll have my dealer take a look at it as he'll be out hopefully in next few weeks installing a screen. I was wondering if maybe a CA-10 added in my system would help as I think my EA-5 is getting taxed with the number of devices I have at this point too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 I am a big fan of a CA10 so would always recommend this… But, I do think something else is going on here. Zigbee working fine to turn the backlights green but not so fine when turning them white does not make (any) sense (to me) unless something else is clogging things up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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