Sugar Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 My dealer installed a Philips Hue driver (by Extra Vegetables)unfortunately storing and recalling lamp states doesn't work.The driver can read all lamps colors and display their values in Composer HE.I can hardcode those values in a macro and recall the colors.This workaround takes a lot of time though, and I'd rather use the driver's native store and recall commands.Does anybody know how to make it work?My system:HC800 ControllerC4 Software 2.7.2.34Director Version 507704-resComposer 2.7.2Hue Bridge Model BSB001Hue Bridge Firmware 01024156 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtex Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I went through this a month ago or so you have to do it via programming. I talked to one of the main lighting driver guys and he confirmed it has to be done via programming you basically have to set scene up in hue then record each lights properties then put that into programming Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar Posted October 9, 2015 Author Share Posted October 9, 2015 Oh, if that's the case, this would be a bummer.But what about the device specific commands available through Composer to "store preset #" and "recall preset #".They definitely "try to" do something, you can see a lot of LUA activity after you execute the commands, they just don't work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtex Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Yup and that's exactly why I called and then followed up with them.Next time more labor will need to be sold for us to do hue scenes lolSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasBill Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I am thinking of replacing my LED rope lights with the HUE rope lighting. Currently my LED lights are on a dimmer switch. If I get a driver for the Philips HUE lighting strips, can I simply wire them into where the LED lights currently are? Then use my current switch to turn them on or off and the driver to change colors? Or do these need to be wired ON all the time and they turn off with a command to the lights themselves? Just trying to understand how this works before I jump. Thanks for any information you can share. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Best is to have a switch (or in your case set the dimmer to act as a switch). This guarantees the lights are on while retaining the ability to actually kill power.Actual dimming (and color) would be done via the Hue driver(s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtex Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 What cyknight said in programming you save the state when the light turns off but honestly I have found just leaving power to the load is the easiestSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 What cyknight said in programming you save the state when the light turns off but honestly I have found just leaving power to the load is the easiestSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk yep - nice thing is mainly to just set the switch/dimmer on whenever you turn 'on' the HUE. I'd hide the C4 lightswitch itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziba Ji Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 On 11/10/2015 at 4:54 PM, TexasBill said: I am thinking of replacing my LED rope lights with the HUE rope lighting. Currently my LED lights are on a dimmer switch. If I get a driver for the Philips HUE lighting strips, can I simply wire them into where the LED lights currently are? Then use my current switch to turn them on or off and the driver to change colors? Or do these need to be wired ON all the time and they turn off with a command to the lights themselves? Just trying to understand how this works before I jump. Thanks for any information you can share. Bill Where did u get the driver Bill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasBill Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Notice that I asked "IF I GET A DRIVER" . I never got one and don't know where to get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 If you do get a driver you might want to consider some generic light strips with the Dresden Elektronik Hue compatible controller. The Hue lightstrips are crazy-expensive compared to generic RGB 5050 light strips that are about $10/5m strip. Add the $50 Dresden controller and some amplifiers and you can run 25m of lights for about $125. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziba Ji Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I understrand, but how do i control with control 4 including a dimmer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Have the Hue driver installed into your system. My Hue lights look like my native C4 dimmers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziba Ji Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 where do i get hue drivers pls? can u submit some info and pictures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasBill Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Ziba - you and I are in the same boat - I need to know: 1. what driver should I get? 2. I would like to get the cheaper bridge and lights - but don't know where to get them and what to purchase... I need a recommendation. I am replacing WHTE LED lighting (rope lighting) in the ceiling. 3. I am assuming that these plug into 110 volt? and that the wireless is then powered and controls the lighting? Bill Notice that I asked "IF I GET A DRIVER" . I never got one and don't know where to get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 You get the driver from your dealer, just like every other C4 driver. Talk to him and see what he suggests. I am using the basic driver from C4 that is free, my understanding is that there are other drivers as well that may have more functionality In terms of the LED light strips - go to Amazon or ebay and search for 5050 led light strips. They have them in individual colors, RGB, and RGBW. Most of the strips are 12V DC so you use some sort of a power supply which is not unlike any other modern tech toy. The most basic controllers cost about $2 are IR controlled. You can get Wifi controllers for about $15 or the Hue compatible controller that I mentioned for about $50. Then if you want something more sophisticated you can get DMX controllers - there are threads here on them but they are more in the realm of professional theatrical lighting. You can just buy the Philips Hue strips but they are about $80 for a 2m strip. I don't understand why they only sell them in 2m strips as the cost of the LED strips seem to be de minimus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziba Ji Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 i already have philips hue strips as my older strips with step down transformer were not dimmer compatible:( what a waste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Which was the waste - the hue strips or the older strips? And what dimmer do you mean? The C4 dimmer? There are other ways to dim them, like the various types of controllers that I mentioned in the above thread. But not all of these types of control work in C4, I actually control one strip using http commands and the Chowmain TCP driver. So when I go to the web page http://myserver/cgi-bin/light_on.py it will turn on my lights. But I have to run Apache on a Raspberry Pi to handle those http requests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziba Ji Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, zaphod said: Which was the waste - the hue strips or the older strips? And what dimmer do you mean? The C4 dimmer? There are other ways to dim them, like the various types of controllers that I mentioned in the above thread. But not all of these types of control work in C4, I actually control one strip using http commands and the Chowmain TCP driver. So when I go to the web page http://myserver/cgi-bin/light_on.py it will turn on my lights. But I have to run Apache on a Raspberry Pi to handle those http requests. Dude that is beyond my pay scale lol. I would rather have expensive philips hue to get a c4 driver and integration. I am working with magnolia and those ass are telling me lutron radio ra is hit or miss with logitech and i have to go c4 route:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Lowe Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 yall need to check out the led options from @HouseLogix they have some great option for low voltage lighting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 The drivers that I was mentioning are the ones at Houselogix for the most part. The DMX driver that I mentioned is the one by Domaudeo, the IR strip controller is the one by Chowmain, etc. But it isn't 100% clear to me what their Hue driver gives you that the "free" C4 driver doesn't have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziba Ji Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Any link for free c4 hue driver pls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 @Ziba Ji That's not how Control4 works. You can't install drivers on your own, you need a dealer to install the driver for you as it must be done from Composer Pro and end users are not allowed to have Composer Pro. I don't like it either but that's their model. And I believe the basic Hue driver is part of the core C4 install. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziba Ji Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 I understand, i just wanted to point my installer to those currently available C4 own drivers pls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Lowe Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Your dealer will find the latest drivers in the online database in composer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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