C4Newbie Posted November 7, 2008 Posted November 7, 2008 So my brand new C4 install starts on Monday and I'm trying to pick out a great wireless router. My installer was going to use the Linksys WRVS 4400N but the reviews look horrible on it. Anyone have any real solid suggestions?Thanks,Adam
TurboKuake Posted November 8, 2008 Posted November 8, 2008 DIR-655 is great. Only downside is that every simple configuration change requires a reboot. Not a hard reboot like unplug and plug though, just a soft boot.EDIT: So once you get it setup it's nice! :cool:
Matt Posted November 10, 2008 Posted November 10, 2008 I would advise against the dlink 655 as it currently don’t work with any control4 dual transport devices. (ie. amp, switch, tuner)The Linksys wrvs4400n is an awesome router and one which is highly recommended. Yes the reviews are bad, but if you look up any router they’ll be bad reviews about it somewhere.
PeterM1 Posted November 10, 2008 Posted November 10, 2008 I would advise against the dlink 655 as it currently don’t work with any control4 dual transport devices. (ie. amp, switch, tuner)This would be extremely odd, please elaborate...what is it that makes a router not work with amps and tuners?
maniac36 Posted November 10, 2008 Posted November 10, 2008 I had a Linksys router in my system to begin with, but I had to hard boot it everyday because it was loosing it's connection. I switched the Linksys for a D-Link Dir-655 and it works perfectly and has great range. I've got a C4 amp, many switches/dimmers and no issues with the Dir-655!
Matt Posted November 10, 2008 Posted November 10, 2008 With the latest version of the 655 firmware it will not id the dual transport devices via ip, if its identified zigbee then its not attached to the network ip, so it will work via zigbee. Which version of Linksys did you have? Wait.. Let me guess 54g? A 20-40 dollar router? If you purchase a cheap router, then expect a lot of issues within your network. I have seen the wrvs4400n on multiple projects and I can tell you this one is the way to go…
PeterM1 Posted November 10, 2008 Posted November 10, 2008 With the latest version of the 655 firmware it will not id the dual transport devices via ip, if its identified zigbee then its not attached to the network ip, so it will work via zigbee.You're confusing 2 different technologies. Your DIR-655 router is running wired Ethernet and also 802.11[a|b|g|n] wireless protocols, the latter do not apply to amps and tuners , the devices you used as examples. Which leaves us with wired Ethernet. So, the tuner will get a DHCP address via wired Ethernet and this has absolutely nothing to do with 802.15 (zigbee) identification and is not affected by your wired router's (any router's) firmware version.Care to attempt to explain again?
Matt Posted November 10, 2008 Posted November 10, 2008 Go to the front of the tuner, switch, or amp and select network (on the front panel) is there not an option for zigbee? If so, what is that for? I am obviously confusing technology, but what’s really weird is I am currently controlling mine via zigbee and not hardwired. Must be the 802.15 technology somewhere
Matt Posted November 10, 2008 Posted November 10, 2008 The issue is the 655 acknowledges the discovery request from the device and offers an IP but the dual-transport device does not acknowledge the IP offer.
PeterM1 Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 What?I think he's trying to say that there's a DHCP negotiation prob on the wired connections but god knows how zigbee fits into all of this. I give up, :cool:. Back to the topic, I've always had success on my installs with Cisco (not linksys Cisco, Cisco Cisco) aironet and pakedge products for wireless access, complimented by any decent current router. And Sonicwalls for isolation of non-secure wireless devices, such as the WEP C4 stuff, older Airpanels for a diff home control product etc).
TurboKuake Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 My DIR-655 works fine. But I have static IPs set for majority of my equipment.
maniac36 Posted November 13, 2008 Posted November 13, 2008 My DIR-655 works fine. But I have static IPs set for majority of my equipment.Same!
TGannon Posted November 14, 2008 Posted November 14, 2008 for what uses is a wireless router needed? if i go with just a 300 as a controller, with the only real functions being contolling lighting and HT, do i need a new wireless router? i have an old linksys right now, but he said it would not work very well . . .
thecodeman Posted November 14, 2008 Posted November 14, 2008 Touchpanels are wi-fi. Wi-fi speakerpoints.
henniae Posted November 15, 2008 Posted November 15, 2008 Touchpanels are wi-fi. Wi-fi speakerpoints.Not all touch panels are wifi. There are wifi and Ethernet versions of both the 3.5 and 10 inch panels. The 7 inch is only available in Ethernet at this time. You don't really need a router at all if you only want to control lighting and a HT.
thecodeman Posted November 15, 2008 Posted November 15, 2008 Touchpanels are wi-fi. Wi-fi speakerpoints.Not all touch panels are wifi. There are wifi and Ethernet versions of both the 3.5 and 10 inch panels. The 7 inch is only available in Ethernet at this time. You don't really need a router at all if you only want to control lighting and a HT.Well yeah, I meant to say that there are some versions of those products that are wifi, those are the first two that came to mind
alanchow Posted November 21, 2008 Posted November 21, 2008 I personally use the linksys wrt-54gl with dd-wrt firmware. I'm actually running my training facility using one of these babys. 4 x vlans and 4 x dhcp servers.
akg4y Posted November 21, 2008 Posted November 21, 2008 Id like to use dd-wrt but Im having a hard time finding a good gigabit Wireless N router under $150 with a USB port(s) that is compatible.. any recommendations?
neil12011 Posted November 21, 2008 Posted November 21, 2008 I too use the wrt54g with ddwrt firmware. Works great, no "network" hiccups to speak of, and I have used the dlink 655 and we had a few problems with C4 products. I wouldn't use a wrt for a customers home, maybe something more robust, but it does work great in my own home.
slemay Posted November 21, 2008 Posted November 21, 2008 FYI:1) It voids the warranty2) We've had a few DD-WRT boxes crash after about two years. Linksys is cheap hardware - keep that in mind... cheap hardware means cheap parts, which means they tend to burn out a lot faster!
slemay Posted November 21, 2008 Posted November 21, 2008 I wouldn't use a wrt for a customers home, maybe something more robust, but it does work great in my own home.I 2nd that!!! If it's for your own test lab / training center - sure... but if it's for a customer - NO WAY!!!
akg4y Posted November 21, 2008 Posted November 21, 2008 I wouldn't use a wrt for a customers home' date=' maybe something more robust, but it does work great in my own home.[/quote']I 2nd that!!! If it's for your own test lab / training center - sure... but if it's for a customer - NO WAY!!!Are you referring to WRT as the linksys hardware itself, or the DD-WRT firmware? I dont see what the issue would be in using the DD-WRT firmware, seems like it simply gives you more options on the home networking side.Someone mentioned the wrvs4400n above, but the reviews on it are among the worst Ive seen:http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=wrvs4400n&oe=utf-8&safe=active&cid=412841952975453347#ps-reviews|start=10Contrast with: http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=DIR-655&btnG=Search&show=dd&safe=active&cid=10559226302427731422#ps-reviewsGiven, some of the people are reporting issues here with C4, but the ones that havent had problems have simply assigned static IPs, correct?
C4Newbie Posted November 21, 2008 Author Posted November 21, 2008 I just had my system installed and we used an Apple Extreme. I'm hoping we don't have any problems with it.
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