Topfox Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Hey everyone, Has anyone seen this before? Taking and output from a 1082D matrix and putting it on an input of a Denon Avr-x2700H. The output of the Denon is to a Samsung TV. In this configuration the TV complains it is not receiving a signal. Although sometimes after a random period of time the TV will all of a sudden show the video. However, if you switch matrix sources it will go back to no signal. On the reciever itself the screen flickers constantly between D Surround and Stereo when on the input that has the Matrix. If you direct connect the sources to the AVR instead of through the matrix everything works fine. If you direct connect the TV to the matrix and cut out the AVR everything works fine. Have played around with a bunch of settings on the Denon. Like HDMI pass through, 4k standard vs 4k enhanced. Have also swapped HDMI cables, played with Compatibility Mode, Calibration, Group EDID Management on the Matrix. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c4toys Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 what is the source device(s)? what do you have video setting of that device set to? Are your cable HDCP 2.0 or higher and longer then 2m (some manufactors recommend this)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topfox Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 Source devices on the 1082d are Verizon fios boxes and nvidia shield. Cables are HDCP compliant as at least 2 meters long. My next thought was to put a HDMI splitter in between the denon and the matrix that has built in EDID management. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lippavisual Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 30 minutes ago, Topfox said: My next thought was to put a HDMI splitter in between the denon and the matrix that has built in EDID management. Bingo, usually solves the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c4toys Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Topfox said: Source devices on the 1082d are Verizon fios boxes and nvidia shield. Cables are HDCP compliant as at least 2 meters long. My next thought was to put a HDMI splitter in between the denon and the matrix that has built in EDID management. Thats fine for the Fios box being most likely only 1080p but the Shield? What other tv's are on the matrix? Do you have a mix of 1080p/4K displays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topfox Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 Everything is 4k. Everything works fine when just using the matrix only. If we take one of the TVs off the matrix and replace it with the Denon, then pair the TV now off the Denon. Then that TV no longer recognizes their being a signal and the denon screen on the receiver itself does the flickering mentioned above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c4toys Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Ive seen this same setup and same issue posted but nobody ever post there actual solution. I use Avpro matrix and AC avr, havent seen those issue. I have a few customers with that receiver but no matrix in the system. Im curious as to weather the 2x1 splitter trick works in this situation. I think a audio extractor will give similiar results as 2x1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topfox Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 Good timing. I just added the hdmi splitter that has Edid management options on it and problem is fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c4toys Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 54 minutes ago, Topfox said: Good timing. I just added the hdmi splitter that has Edid management options on it and problem is fixed. added to the matrix output to the avr input? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topfox Posted April 19, 2023 Author Share Posted April 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, c4toys said: added to the matrix output to the avr input? Ran the matrix zone output to a 2 way splitter input. Then ran the HDMI 1 output from the splitter to a HDMI input on the receiver. Then on the splitter I configured its EDID Management to copy HDMI Out 1 EDID. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topfox Posted April 19, 2023 Author Share Posted April 19, 2023 Used this splitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 4 hours ago, c4toys said: I think a audio extractor will give similiar results as 2x1 The point is removing the EDID handling toa 'hard' point: pretty much all splitters do this, and while numerous extractors do too, not all by far. So yes, it may do the same thing, but for a DYI option it's just easier to recommend a simple splitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 3 hours ago, Topfox said: Ran the matrix zone output to a 2 way splitter input. Then ran the HDMI 1 output from the splitter to a HDMI input on the receiver. Just as a note, it can go either way: in most cases you can put it there OR between AVR and TV, sometimes it has to be one or the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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