Ctrl4notWkng Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Need your advice please. We've decided that we'll move away from using Control4 for our home automation. But we have this amplifier that has hardly been used - paid over $2K for it a few years ago. Is there a way we can still stream music through this amplifier without the HC-200 or HC-300 etc. Any advice will be much appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ichbinbose Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Without a controller you won't be able to control the amp Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctrl4notWkng Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 17 minutes ago, ichbinbose said: Without a controller you won't be able to control the amp Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Thank you ichbinbose! Does it have to be a control4 controller? or could another system "control" this amplifier? An unrelated question, can a universal remote control e.g. a Harmony Elite work be mapped with an HC-300? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowitall Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Why? Honestly my advice is update your controller. 200/300 are 2 generations old and I would hate my system too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abovedeck Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, Ctrl4notWkng said: An unrelated question, can a universal remote control e.g. a Harmony Elite work be mapped with an HC-300? NO. I mean, you could teach IR signals to the Harmony Elite but I'm not sure if the HC-300 can be controlled that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ichbinbose Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 not cost effectively Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic30101 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 It can, but just because you can doesnt mean you should Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctrl4notWkng Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 @knowitall we just decided no point throwing more money at C4 at this point. @abovedeck that's what I was hoping for actually- to be able to "teach" the remote to control the HC-300. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowitall Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Ok then not my job to convince you. What else ya got and how much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 3 hours ago, Ctrl4notWkng said: Need your advice please. We've decided that we'll move away from using Control4 for our home automation. But we have this amplifier that has hardly been used - paid over $2K for it a few years ago. Is there a way we can still stream music through this amplifier without the HC-200 or HC-300 etc. Any advice will be much appreciated! CAN an outside control be used - I suppose so, at least via IP control, if someone would be willing to go through the process of creating such a driver by first reverse engineering things. So, realistically, no - not really. Doing it via harmony (or other IR) to HC300 isn't going to be the way to go either. You say you want to step away from Control4 - going this route isn't that at all - in fact you'd require MORE programming on the C4 side to make it happen as all you're doing is sending an IR signal to C4, who then still has to do all the 'background' work as usual. Whatever your reasoning to ditch your C4 system are yours - but trying to backtrack some of it into another system isn't going to make things better, just worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abovedeck Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 5 hours ago, Ctrl4notWkng said: @knowitall we just decided no point throwing more money at C4 at this point. @abovedeck that's what I was hoping for actually- to be able to "teach" the remote to control the HC-300. You don't need an IR blaster. The HC-200, HC-300, and HC-500 can accept IR signals from a 3rd party remote (Pronto, URC, RTI, Harmony etc). You have to use Control4's IR table and link the commands in the programming tab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhendriksen Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 This is going to result in a lot more work than just getting someone who knows what they're doing to make Control4 do what you want it to do. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koxkp Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 So what you're really doing is keeping control4 and using a harmony remote instead of SR-250? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thatguy230 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 27 minutes ago, koxkp said: So what you're really doing is keeping control4 and using a harmony remote instead of SR-250? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Kinda like buying a Porsche and having the motor changed to a Volkswagen motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic30101 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 58 minutes ago, Thatguy230 said: Kinda like buying a Porsche and having the motor changed to a Volkswagen motor. true and I agree 100%, but IF they wants to have a dealer make generic inputs 1-8 and rooms 1-8. Set up the IR input bindings. They can do the rest in composer HE to do the IR masks and painfully learn all the commands into the harmony (which will be a pain in the ass) use codes 201-208 for the source selection for each zone and then the harmony would control the devices themselves. They would get the DIY solution he may be searching for as all the c4 gear is being used for is source selection and volume routing. Definitely not the best way to go but it is possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ichbinbose Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 My guess is that he really just needs a new dealer to help fix whatever issues he's having and to provide the support that is needed for his system or to at least help him move in another direction Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thatguy230 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 29 minutes ago, sonic30101 said: true and I agree 100%, but IF he wants to have a dealer make generic inputs 1-8 and rooms 1-8. Set up the IR input bindings. He can do the rest in composer HE to do the IR masks and painfully learn all the commands into the harmony (which will be a pain in the ass) use codes 201-208 for the source selection for each zone and then the harmony would control the devices themselves. He would get the DIY solution he may be searching for as all the c4 gear is being used for is source selection and volume routing. Definitely not the best way to go but it is possible And a VW bug motors can fit in a Porsche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctrl4notWkng Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 Thanks all! Yes, I most definitely don't want to make things worse or spend too much time on it. All I am trying to do is be able to use the 8-zone amplifier. For now, we are no longer using the SR-250 (two of them)- they fell off the grid anyway. We don't care about the thermostats anymore. Locks have been taken care off by another system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 7 minutes ago, Ctrl4notWkng said: Thanks all! Yes, I most definitely don't want to make things worse or spend too much time on it. All I am trying to do is be able to use the 8-zone amplifier. For now, we are no longer using the SR-250 (two of them)- they fell off the grid anyway. We don't care about the thermostats anymore. Locks have been taken care off by another system. you can't use the AMP without a control4 system. You really only have 2 options: 1) invest more and upgrade your system 2) sell your amp on ebay and buy a new one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctrl4notWkng Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, msgreenf said: you can't use the AMP without a control4 system. You really only have 2 options: 1) invest more and upgrade your system 2) sell your amp on ebay and buy a new one painful, but I hear you. thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just now, Ctrl4notWkng said: painful, but I hear you. thanks! i would recommend working with a dealer on this forum. There are great resources here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowitall Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 $250 for the amp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic30101 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 EBay would pull in more money than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nawty Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Man, sometimes I just wanna fix these things for the customer just to establish a truth: A good system is only as good as the install and programming. I've seen Crestron systems with awful graphics and poor programming. not Crestron's fault, and bad URC remotes with very bad macros and layouts, again not Universal Remote's fault. im sure you could actually use this system a bit more if you had someone help you from here...Control4 really does have some great features. PM me if you want help... I'm always curious to see how someone left the system and in what shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrick Cain Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 14 hours ago, Ctrl4notWkng said: Need your advice please. We've decided that we'll move away from using Control4 for our home automation. But we have this amplifier that has hardly been used - paid over $2K for it a few years ago. Is there a way we can still stream music through this amplifier without the HC-200 or HC-300 etc. Any advice will be much appreciated! Hi Ctrl4notwkng, I'm really sorry you had a bad experience with your Control4 system. I'd like to see if I can assist, please PM me and I can see if I can find your account to better assist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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