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17 minutes ago, Dueport said:
Damn that is very cool - bravo!
Thanks. It's fun, but not terribly practical yet as the tech is still developing. For instance you can tell it to give you license plate numbers, but it tends to hallucinate and give fake ones, even if you tell it "Provide a license plate number but only if you are SURE." But you can see where it's going to be very cool (and intrusive). The one practical use i've found is that i've got it watching the backyard of an AirBNB to tell me if it spots two or more dogs (only one is allowed). It's pretty good at that.
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Sort of a fun thing I'm doing with Home Assistant, but I'd think it should be doable with C4 if someone writes an integration. When Unifi detects an object (vehicle, person, animal), HA sends a camera snapshot to Google Generative AI with a prompt to interpret what's occurring in the photo. A notification is then sent to the phone with the AI text and the snapshot. It can be very accurate if the image quality is good and the prompt is good:
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So there is an existing python library that a home assistant guy developed, someone could port it over.
https://github.com/jeeftor/intellifire_hacs
However, the WFM module is hilariously buggy and falls offline on its own, all the time. The relay solution mentioned above is a good answer.
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8 minutes ago, eggzlot said:
pure DIY
https://www.home-assistant.io/
not pushing you out of this forum, but AVSForum has a sub forum for Home Automation and its 95% focused on the tinker/DIY platforms out there
the 3 I link to above you dont need a dealer or dealership status to get the hardware/software, etc. But they all have a smaller ecosystem, supported by people writing drivers which can break at any time, less "official" support for 3rd party devices compared to C4, Crestron, Savant, Elan, etc...They also dont do some aspects of media as well but in general, 3 options ya got.
I'm on home assistant for three properties. I don't agree about smaller ecosystem, it's larger. Definitely agree about lack of official support, and yes agree that you are depending on another community member or members for drivers. And yes - you are doing it DIY, it's all you backed by some good, some bad documentation, and a community support forum and Redd it
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What everyone else said. Plus Home Assistant too, Apple Home, sort of (now I'll run away to avoid inbound missiles).
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16 hours ago, caudingo said:
I have several T3s already and I would like to avoid buying new T4s. HA has a fantastic dashboard, that's why I'd like to display it. Is it possible to display dynamic data on C4, like the HA cards? For example, I'd like to display when the next bus arrive for the kids.
Btw, I use the TCP driver on C4 and webhooks on HA, as I couldn't make Berto MQTT work...
Pretty soon you'll be down the road I took - HA as the master interface, C4 as the "slave".
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14 hours ago, Cyknight said:
-The Control4 system is an overlay for your blinds, that may or may not have an alternate control option. In addition it's doing music at least, maybe more, hard to tell from this en
this is good advice. find out if there is an OEM control option you can use. I wouldn't spend a dime on a rental's C4 install.
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52 minutes ago, RAV said:
Summary of the suit:
1. We paid 10 million for Neeo, and integrated their people. Designed a new version.
2. Their primary people left us and started a competitor using our tech, in violation of an exit agreement.
3. Copying our design to the point of quoted comments it’s the same thing.
4. We told them to stop integration to our platform and use of trademarks, they stopped the promotion but Snap was forced to break the integration.
5. Josh AI and Control4 had agreements to work together to integrate the two platforms, including software. (including no working behind and around our backs)
6. Knowing all that AVA and Josh AI got together
7. Releasing the Josh Remote
8. Both remotes are copies of our patents, tech, design, and confidential property
9. Bad blood, Josh AI had an agreement to have dealers buy from Snap, Josh circumvented. Made other agreements with a buying group, refused to accept product back, and finally bought back at 50% off.
10. We asked nicely, now were suing.
thanks for the summary. Should be an interesting one. The noncompete is probably not a great claim, they are really tough to enforce, but if actual IP found its way into the product, that's a problem.
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19 hours ago, time2jet said:
The Halo Platform Touch Remote is the by far the best remote ever released to date in the AV industry.
All in all, I’m sure there has never been a better remote launched by anyone to date.
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkLOL
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14 minutes ago, eggzlot said:
Interesting. And funny you mention the bath. I have a StreamLabs that doesn’t integrate but maybe 1x a week if someone takes a slightly extended shower it thinks there is a leak. Since it lacks integration I just ignore the note if someone is showering. I wondered how Moen and others handle those situations - would be awful to have shampoo in the hair and the water turns off on you!
For Phyn did you get the assistant and shutoff unit or just the assistant?
The Phyn is the assistant+shutoff unit. seemed desirable for a house that i'm not in/is left unattended for extended periods.
On the moen, both shutoffs happened while i was out of town, so i learned about it from the app+irate phone calls from my wife, which was a definite home automation fail
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21 hours ago, eggzlot said:
Hey there - bumping an old thread. How’s the Phyn?
I noticed the device without shutoff feature will still monitor an entire house so it has me reconsidering giving it a try
Hey - well it's been an adventure. The Phyn has some pretty non-standard connectors to tie into the water line, which required the plumber to try and obtain them from their supplier. Phyn does a pretty poor job of explaining what's needed, so it went back and forth for a couple weeks, with calls and emails in to Phyn. Finally, the plumber said, let's just do the Moen Flo, we install all them all the time, and we have the parts. So I did that and the Flo has been "fine" apart from the power supply just dying for no good reason. app is fine, integration with my home automation is fine. It has twice now decided my daughter's bath was a catastrophic leak and shut off the water :).
The Phyn - I finally did get it installed in our airbnb about a month ago, and guess what? It found a slow leak in a toilet. Got that fixed. I don't know one way or the other whether Moen would've found it too, but happy that the Phyn did.
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There is always the chance that they might break it, but currently Unifi Protect is working extremely well.
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12 minutes ago, msgreenf said:
For Zwave yes
It will be great to get access to all this stuff then.
https://products.z-wavealliance.org/regions/2/categoriesthats what you meant, correct?
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27 minutes ago, msgreenf said:
There are reasons beyond speed to upgrade to core. The new Zigbee and Zwave chips are huge
Because they support all the third party zwave and zigbee devices ?
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Is the dealer who sold it to you involved? literally the only good thing about Luma (for the end user at least) is the support from Snap.
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11 hours ago, cnicholson said:
Hmm. Video distribution via big matrix might be dying as a default solution, but I'm curious what you would spec instead of a 32x32 digital/analog audio matrix. Is there a better way to serve "bread and butter" audio zones (not audiophile or multi channel zones)?
I mean primarily that the decentralized/distributed solutions like OTT boxes slapped to the back of the TV or just a Sonos have come so far that it doesn’t make a ton of sense to pay $$ for big distribution solutions except for a small and shrinking set of consumers.
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10 hours ago, lippavisual said:
No there isn’t, regarding your audio question.
WN just likes to be negative for anything on this site. I’ve learned to just look over his posts.
Audio and Video distribution still has a mainstay in my business.
I have no doubt it’s a mainstay. I’m sure you manage to convince clients to pay any amount of money for stuff they don’t need. Good for business.
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1 hour ago, Amr said:
Audio and Video Distribution are key to any C4 implementation and where it standout!
dying use case - plenty of ways to do it cheaper and less finicky.
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2 minutes ago, Matt Lowe said:
What makes you think its would be hard to retrofit.
Ripping out and replacing panelized lighting does not qualify to me as an "easy way back." Nor does the prospect of keeping C4 around and using it only for lighting. By design, it doesn't want to talk to anything else. If OP is going to do it, at least pick the Lutron system for that reason, there is an API through which other things can talk to it.
17 minutes ago, Matt Lowe said:It does cost but you save in other ways.
Do tell.
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10 hours ago, nxr said:
Hello, working on new house with about 40 dimmers or so and trying to decide whether better to have the lighting on a centralized panel or have it as hidden banks of dimmers in a couple of locations. Any views on how best to approach this?
Better be sure you love C4, because there’s no easy way back if you do this.
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1 hour ago, Cyknight said:
I want it all, I want it now, I want it for free. And if I didn't do my homework it's not my fault.
Yes definitely, everyone should stop bitching about their $900 remote….
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Sooner or later you may get to the point where you're wondering why you have C4 at all, apart from the sunk investment in light switches etc.
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8 hours ago, chopedogg88 said:
choose your weapon...lol
Agreed - the C4 is the bottom one. Except it's 5x the cost of the top one.
AI interpretation of camera feed
in Push the Envelope
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As the other poster noted, it's Google AI. Home Assistant sends the notification, but it's agnostic as to tech. Anything that can feed it a picture and a prompt can use it, and the info is just a JSON response. Would be straightforward to use it in a C4 app notification.