Nick Wanerka

I figured that You should be able to run digital and analog and thought it was very weird when the digital line is what screwed everything up. I did go to update manager it's not on the list and has to be done either to ovrc Or manual somehow. Thank you for that password I will definitely try that tonight. As I said in one of the others posts ( And I know my posts are way too long lol) But I cannot get it on ovrc as the other person will not take it off theirs or respond to me. So I'm hoping that password you just gave me will work. I very much appreciate it thank you that is awesome

So basically if I can figure out a way with the help of all of you on how I can trigger trigger the URC amp to turn on. Their amps are usually just networked amps networked amps and programmed through total control accelerate programing. So that is my problem, being able to somehow have the amp turn on when I need it to. Turning on is a must but I would love to be able to turn it on and OFF somehow then if we can figure that out with the single zone amps, I then want to star figuring out how to use the URC multi zone amps in control4

No I totally understand what you're saying and yes I know how's program and and make my physical and logical connections. Physical connections. Physical in the real world lol logical on composer but the URC amp does not have a 12 volt trigger It has an IR port. So I was then going to just make my own driver but those amps do not come with a remote control and you cannot find the IR hex codes anywhere. I have searched long and hard for them and I have even gotten in contact with URC headquarters as a dealer myself.. They told me even though I am a URC dealer they do not give out the IR codes it's to anybody and that port is strictly for URC engineers to use. I did not tell them that I was using it in a control4 atmosphere, before you ask I was simply it was simply telling them that I was trying to make a custom I'm practicing with the amp but still no luck

Cops monitoring!! I also use clareone in my business and my monitoring company has been COPS Monitoring since the beginning. They have always been great and based right here in the USA. My customers think it's all me because the monitoring company even says my company's name correctly and most don't Hope that helps

Ok so I have another question for the group. I have so many single zone and multi zone amps and was wondering if there is anyway to use them as a dumb amp with a smart audio matrix? I am a urc dealer also (but really only do control4 now. Only the best:-)) and URC won't even give out the ir codes so creating a driver is out. The URC amps have an. Ir in on the back. Someone has to of had figured this out by now. Any help would be great. Now that I learned how to use the audio matrix (don't know how I ever lived with out it or even how I would set up multiple audio systems without it? But now all I want to use is an audio matrix in every system going forward. There are so many great uses for them!! So I am putting it out there to all you amazing integrators out there. Hopefully from one that is still learning and willing to ask for help after 1st trying on my own for days (me) to all of you that have been doing this for years. Teach me and let me be your padewan learner :-). how can I use a URC amp in a control4 system ? Thank you in advance Nick Wanerka

I figured it out!!! Well I think I did, I got it to work. I think all it was , was the digital coax line. I was running an rca red and white stereo line from the ea3 to the matrix and also a digital coax from the matrix. I took out the digital and unbinded it and bam!!! It worked and it works great. Each zone with volume. The whole 9 yard. The only problem now is: what I can't have any digital lines coming into the matrix? Maybe I can use a digital to analog audio converter?

So I have it narrowest down to an out of date driver but how can I update the driver? I can't get it on ovrc because the last owner of the unit whom I bought it from still has it attached to their ovrc account and they won't answer me to take it off. I found something on control4's back logs amd it had me download this c4_290_ams_firmware_patch but when I run the application that it says to run and that it came with, it then asks for the ea3's password... ? I don't have a password on my controller. So where can I get the firmware? Right now I am running device firmware v1.06.84

Ok so I'd the 1st dip switch is up and the rest are down then all the zones will play what is on input 1? Not sure I am getting it

All the dip switches except the 1st one are off. . I did try my autonomic amp and that works exactly how it should. Hope that helps

Yes each output from the matrix matches the input of the amp. So matrix output 1 goes to amp input 1, matrix output 2 goes to amp Input 2 and so on

Thank you for the response and yes this is crazy. But when I turn on the 1st zone (does not matter which one it is) yes the amp does come on and all the numbers in blue come up but no sound out of anything until I turn on any other zone. Just 1 zone on and then a second (once again it does not matter which zone) but then all 7 zones are playing at the preset on volume and that's it until I turn off the 2 zones that are on. I will check the grid in composer when I get home. Like I said earlier unfortunately by the time I get home tech support on closed also the dip switches: I have zone 1 up and the rest down. So that all zones can receive zone 1 input

I'm with msgreenf, why do you want to do that? I did not think it matters to much. Or does it? Now you have me thinking. Would the ea5 process complex macros and automation faster? What would be the advantages of doing this?

Ok I have been trying all day to make this work, and all night looking for answers on line. Please help. Here is the problem. I have an triad 24x24 audio matrix switch and an 8 zone triad power amp 100 WPC. I am using 7 of the 8 zones, I have an digital coax line coming from the ea3 to the digital audio inputs on the matrix and a stereo line with rca coming from the ea 3 to the analog audio inputs on the matrix. Then from the matrix I have red and white rca lines coming from the analog audio output on the matrix going to thw zone inputs on the amp. (Red and white) rca for output 1 on matrix to red and white input on amp. 1 set for each of the 7 zones that are in use. In composer I used the discover tap ssid for the matrix and just double clicked to add it in my room called "rack". Which I keep hidden on the navigator. Then added the triad 8-zone power amplifier 100 from search. In connections for the matrix audio: input 1 is binded to ea3 audio out and on matrix audio input 17 for digital coax is binded to ea 3 digital audio out. Lower down; Audio/video outputs I have audio output 1 binded to 8 zone power amp audio input 2 and so on for each auto output. Audio output 2 to 8 zone amp audio input 2.... Lower down; Room Control room selection 1 RoomControl audio_volume output is binded to family room>audio volume 2, room selection 2 RoomControl audio_volume output is binded to kitchen>Audio volume 1 and so on for each zone 8-zone power amplifier 100 WPC connections: Audio 1 / Global input audio stereo input is binded to triad 24x24 matrix switch> audio output 1, audio input 2 is binded to Triad 24x24 audio matrix switch>audio output 2 and so on for all 7 zones A little further down on 8 zone amp connections the 12 volt trigger out is binded to triad 24x24 audio matrix Further down; room Control Zone 1 audio End-point RoomControl Audio_selection output binded to family room>audio end-point 2, Zone 2 Audio end point binded to kitchen>audio end-point 1 and so on Problem: let's say I choose the kitchen and hit listen and choose a source and source. On my screen it says it is playing and I can control volume but I hear nothing . Until I add a any other zone to play with it (does not matter what zone) amd when I do, then all the zones come on. Even though the volume shows it is going up and down, every zone is on and stays on the same volume and won't go up or down. I have to turn off the zones or end session. So I get no sound on 1 zone or choose 2 or more zones and get all 7 on at same time. Also it does not matter where I start. I could be in master bathroom Zone amd start xm radio amd hear nothing until I choose another zone like office and then all 7 zones are on at same sound level and cannot change but on my touch screen or phone app it says it's changing. Please help I am going crazy. Ps I am the dealer and it's my own house and no I have not called c4 yet because I want to be home when I do for obviously reasons. They will probably tell me to try this or want to log onto my system and by the time I get home they are closed. It's Sunday night at 11:45pm and i started this project at 9 am this morning. You can only imagine how crazy I am going right now. Please any suggestions Thanks I provided screen shots of composer too

Yes I was about to say I have spectrum in Wan 1 and att internet into Wan 2. Wan 2 is only active when spectrum goes down. It's used for a back up

Yes I am looking to get out of my family business , yes I am a new Control4 dealer also. I was certified as a control4 dealer a little over a year ago. My father who was the owner of the company and the license holder passed away 2 months ago. That forced me to get my Florida unlimited Electrical contracting license, which I did, but there are to many hands in the cookie jar. Since my dad's passing, I have 4 family member's, 1 being my mother (Who does not need the money 1 bit, as my dad left her very well off), but these 4 family member's all think they are entitled to a weekly salary but not have to do anything for that weekly salary. So instead of fighting it out in court, or worse, at family dinners, since I am now the license holder, I figured just close the business. Yes it is heart breaking, but honestly I have no real good choice. So I have been sending out that letter to anyone that posted a control4 job. I am still 100% willing to do some remote programming for you for free. I figure the more I can show the Control4 community what I can do, the better. Then I can get my name around and that will hopefully help me land a good job. A lot of people talk the talk and say how good they are, and that they can program/install any control4 system, but when asked to prove there worth then its a whole different story. Well I am willing to talk the talk and walk the walk, show anyone that will give me a chance what I can do. So there it is in a nut shell. If you need some remote programming done, I am your man. If you have a job in the home automation/AV/Networking business then I am still your man