gshoag Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 Hello,I come looking for some further advice from everyone here concerning media players. Currently, looking at either Popcorn Hour or Dune players to purchase. My requirements are quite simple – ability to play all file types (mkv etc), music from ripped CD's, stable firmware, no stuttering when streaming, and some future proofing functionality so I don’t have to upgrade within a year or two. Below are some of the devices I have been looking at.Popcorn A400Pros: New release and will be around for a while- Excellent support for a huge range of media formats- Has Air Play for mac devices- Has many apps- 3D capabilities- Bit Torrent capabilitiesCons: - Very buggy and many negative reviews to date- No Blu-ray player- Video’s stutter when playing- Doesn’t support Blu-ray menus- Cost to get Extra VegetablesPopcorn C300Pros:- Excellent support for a huge range of media formats- Has Air Play for mac devices- Has many apps- Can get Blu-ray player- Can install hard drive- Bit Torrent capabilities- Not sure about the 3D capabilitiesCons:- Sounds like it will no longer receive updates. Focus now on A400- Cost to get extra vegetablesDune HD Base 3DPros:- Excellent support for a huge range of media formats- 3D- Very stable- New release from Dune- Internal hard drive- Don’t need Extra Vegetables purchase- Highly recognized in industryCons:- No Blu-ray- Not many apps- No Bit Torrent capabilities- Purchase MyMoviesLet me know your thoughts on these devices or if there is something else I should consider, such as Dune HD TV or Mede8er. This will go be connected to my 4x4 HDMI matrix. I have a NAS for movie storage. Feel free to ask any questions and I will answer them quickly. My goal is to make a decision by Monday as I am so tired of going back and forth on which device.Thanks for your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 I've got Popcorn Hour C300's. They're great.I don't care if it never receives another update....it works great. What would they update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamonddesign Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 Last week the released new firmware for A200s. Those were end of life before the A300s which are now end of life as well. They keep doing firmware for all models. C300 firmware is expected in a month or so (a400 is focus because it needs it the most although they are fairly solid now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gshoag Posted July 21, 2013 Author Share Posted July 21, 2013 Thanks for that info DD. I was on the site http://www.networkedmediatank.com/ and some were mentioning it wouldn't be updated much, if at all. After looking on the site even more, I have learned about couchpotato and many other great apps. I am ruling out the Dune at this time because of the apps. Also found out that Dune doesn't play music. Now, down to which PCH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zariaman Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Thanks for that info DD. I was on the site http://www.networkedmediatank.com/ and some were mentioning it wouldn't be updated much, if at all. After looking on the site even more, I have learned about couchpotato and many other great apps. I am ruling out the Dune at this time because of the apps. Also found out that Dune doesn't play music. Now, down to which PCH.Let me know which one you picked and why; I am looking for one as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avittech Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 I would seriously consider Kaleidescape, yes it is expensive, but yes it is absolutely worth it.I fought it for years with XBMC, AppleTV, Plex, Dune, Popcorn, Media Center, you name it. I have never been happier since taking on Kscape as a movie server. It also does music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil12011 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Of course Kaleidescape if you have the money, Dune or PCH is still a really good affordable choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qVAMPIREp Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Thanks for that info DD. I was on the site http://www.networkedmediatank.com/ and some were mentioning it wouldn't be updated much, if at all. After looking on the site even more, I have learned about couchpotato and many other great apps. I am ruling out the Dune at this time because of the apps. Also found out that Dune doesn't play music. Now, down to which PCH.The Dune definitely plays non DRM music. I use it to send music to my theatre room all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gshoag Posted July 23, 2013 Author Share Posted July 23, 2013 The Kaleidescape is outside my price point. I must admit it does look very nice though. At this point it looks like I am going to purchase the PCH a-400. I couldn't find a device that could do everything I wanted, at a price I could afford. This device has excellent picture quality and plays HD, which is my main requirement. Some of the apps are a nice bonus as well. It also has some future proofing with 3D. Will probably purchase a Roku to supplement the PCH. Thank you all for your input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamonddesign Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Great choice (new firmware released yesterday for A400). Its almost my go to player now (still recommending C300 first and then A400). Hope you buy from us since we stock (have about 30 in stock now) and help out here but no biggie either way. So my current (7/23/13) choices are:C300A400 (or move this to #1 if 3d is needed)Popbox V8 (or move this to #1 is budget or size is key) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebery Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Great choice (new firmware released yesterday for A400). Its almost my go to player now (still recommending C300 first and then A400). Hope you buy from us since we stock (have about 30 in stock now) and help out here but no biggie either way. So my current (7/23/13) choices are:C300A400 (or move this to #1 if 3d is needed)Popbox V8 (or move this to #1 is budget or size is key)Is the dd media player gonna happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Great choice (new firmware released yesterday for A400). Its almost my go to player now (still recommending C300 first and then A400). Hope you buy from us since we stock (have about 30 in stock now) and help out here but no biggie either way. So my current (7/23/13) choices are:C300A400 (or move this to #1 if 3d is needed)Popbox V8 (or move this to #1 is budget or size is key)I have an issue with my C300's where when I go to start a movie the audio cuts in and out and the picture jumps all over the place...it's totally crazy. A quick reboot of the box (I have an SR250 button now devoted to this) fixes the problem.Is this something you've experienced? Any idea how to make it a "non issue"? It doesn't happen every time, but a good portion of the time. It happens with all different movies and file types too...no common denominator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zariaman Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Great choice (new firmware released yesterday for A400). Its almost my go to player now (still recommending C300 first and then A400). Hope you buy from us since we stock (have about 30 in stock now) and help out here but no biggie either way. So my current (7/23/13) choices are:C300A400 (or move this to #1 if 3d is needed)Popbox V8 (or move this to #1 is budget or size is key)You know better; but I was reading specs on C300 and it says it plays 3D content and even codec for SBS/ side by side mkv. What advantage does the A400 have over 3D media? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSDave Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Great choice (new firmware released yesterday for A400). Its almost my go to player now (still recommending C300 first and then A400). Hope you buy from us since we stock (have about 30 in stock now) and help out here but no biggie either way. So my current (7/23/13) choices are:C300A400 (or move this to #1 if 3d is needed)Popbox V8 (or move this to #1 is budget or size is key)You know better; but I was reading specs on C300 and it says it plays 3D content and even codec for SBS/ side by side mkv. What advantage does the A400 have over 3D media?A400 will do frame sequential full 1080 3D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gshoag Posted July 23, 2013 Author Share Posted July 23, 2013 Was catching up on this thread before I order anything and really appreciate the discussion currently ongoing. I find it interesting that the C300 was in front of the A400 in the earlier list. I do not have 3D TV at all and not sure when I will be getting it. If that's the case it sounds like it might end up being the C300 as the best option in the PCH line for me. Price is essentially the same so it comes down to whats best over-all. I do enjoy the knowledgeable users of this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamonddesign Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 They are confusing. C models are top model compared to A models but the current A model is more recent than the current C model (due to Cinavia we may not see a C400). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zariaman Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Great choice (new firmware released yesterday for A400). Its almost my go to player now (still recommending C300 first and then A400). Hope you buy from us since we stock (have about 30 in stock now) and help out here but no biggie either way. So my current (7/23/13) choices are:C300A400 (or move this to #1 if 3d is needed)Popbox V8 (or move this to #1 is budget or size is key)would you ship to Canada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamonddesign Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Sure just email us direct if you have more questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drmark12pa Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I have the Popcorn A400 which at first was very buggy but finally works well with anything I've played on it including 3D. My only issue (which is a known issue) is every 24-36 hours the network drops the A400 which requires a reboot of the unit so you cannot control it with Control4 until rebooted. According the the Popcorn forums it's related to your network setup but no one can seem to determine what, where, and why. I have a tough time with this explanation since none of my other equipment just drops off my network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prabeau Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 diamonddesignThis thread has gotten my interest up and since I am in the States on vacation……!C300Having a NAS with 4T capacity will this unit work in the network and make use of NAS.Sorry a novice hereHave a 3D TV but no 3d media to play ….yetDo I need my installer for setup and what about drivers required ?Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTxAg Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Does the Dune have any type of folder security or parental lock? I'm putting movies on my NAS but don't want the kids getting into Saving Private Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamonddesign Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Yes your installer would do driver setup or if someone doesn't have one we can do remotely. Its pretty quick and easy.On the Dune I don't think they have a folder lock unless its a new feature I haven't seen yet. That's a very common question (although its typically worse than Saving Private Ryan when I'm asked ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 The Movie Guardian app supposedly provides that service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prabeau Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 One last question.Do you have to purchase a driver if so what are we talking about $Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamonddesign Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Speak with your dealer or if you have none email me at james@diamondhomedesign.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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