Jaffacree Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 At what point should i look at putting zigbee devices on a secondary zigbee network? I am running 30+ zigbee devices on a HC800. I also have a HC 250 and 200B in my project. would it be beneficial to place some devices on these other controllers? Or is the 30+ devices on the HC800 just fine. Just looking to get the best proformace out of my hardware and system. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMHarman Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 An HC800 has barely noticed it has 30 Zigbee devices on it.No perceptable performance increase offloading that to the HC250. Maybe even a degredation due to the performance of the antenna array on the HC800 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Depends how big ur home is and how the devices are spread out.....also depends on where ur controllers are located.....really depends on how it's laid outFor example...if u had 20 devices on 1 side of ur home and 10 on the complete opposite side near another controller it may be a more efficient to tie those devices to that controllerAre you having zigbee issues or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Technical limit of 150 devices off the top of my head, though I start considering separation at a 100 for performance enhancement. Layout and spread of devices as 'zilla mentioned is far more important of a factor in this then number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaffacree Posted April 12, 2014 Author Share Posted April 12, 2014 I am not having any proformance issues. I was just curious if at some point i need to consider possibily moving some switches over. I have several devices in the garage which is about 40 feet away from the antenna, and i do notice some lag in those switches. I have been thinking about adding a controller out there and placing those switches on that mesh to improve their proformance. Thanks for the information!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFUG Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 40' out from an 800 may or may not be a problem. Like others here have said, it depends on on your specific dwelling. Rather than trying to guess your way to a solution, get your dealer to run a "Received Signal Strength" test. I've got stuff one foot from a 250 ZAP that shows "Noisy"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AviDrugi Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Hi All - I just wanted to mention that in our installations we use the Perytons Sniffer (thsy support several dongles as front-ends and we are quite happy with its features...) - www.perytons.com.Among others, they allow to initially identify noisy channels (either just noice on the 2.4GHz band or existing 802.15.4 based activity) and then to actually capture and analyze the ZigBee data - including an autodiscoery of the Network devices, topology and alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain2107 Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 I have 60 devices on my Zigbee network with 7 of then being Kwikset locks. The network has crashed a couple of times going completely offline this past week. Had to reboot to connect twice and third time today it came up on its own. I was thinking I had too many devices on my HC-800 but this sounds like maybe something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 this is not a zigbee problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain2107 Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 That's what I thought and then was reading about different firmware on the kwiksets. One of my kwikset locks is on 02.00.04 and the rest firmware is the next lower version 01.08.13. This didn't start happening until after I added the last lock so wondering it was tied together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 ive seen zigbee devices cause some issues...but ive never seen it take down a network....perhaps someone who has seen this can chime in easy to test....remove the last locks batteries and see what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain2107 Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 I just checked and 2 of the 7 locks are on newer firmware. If it goes down again I will pull the batteries. I'm still on version 2.2.4 and pr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain2107 Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Probably need to bite the bullet and upgrade the whole system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaffacree Posted August 4, 2014 Author Share Posted August 4, 2014 I have added a HC200 to my garage. The distance of the garage was causing an issue. How do i get the lights and other zigbee devices to switch from main zigbee server to the garage zigbee server? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 If the HC200 is setup as a fully seperate zigbee server and zap coordinator, devices will need to be re-identified - select the appropriate controller in the dropdown menu in the ID window. If you're putting it in as 'just' a ZAP no further work is required. BUT, often overlooked is that a ZAP NEEDS to be able to communicate to the ZAPcoordinator OVER ZIGBEE to work (it can do this with hops like lights etc can).Once established it works as a full ZAP but on initialisation and every once in a while it needs to connect via ZigBee itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moirons Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 What antenna should be used for the ZigBee network? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 ? None? Unless you have an HC800 - then use C4's own unit for guaranteed result - it's pretty well priced anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moirons Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I have HC800 and HC250 on the home network. What is the code for the C4 part? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdvr Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 The 800 comes with two antennas did you not get yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moirons Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Yes but as my equipment is being put in a rack, I was hoping to use the screw in connection to extend it with a WI-FI antenna if that is possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdepaola Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 C4 makes a kit for this and it's fairly inexpensive. Just ask your dealer Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMHarman Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Yes but as my equipment is being put in a rack, I was hoping to use the screw in connection to extend it with a WI-FI antenna if that is possibleMy HC250 is the top item in the rack in the C4 rack mount kit and zigbee is just dandy here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 C4 makes a kit for this and it's fairly inexpensive. Just ask your dealerSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk As I mentioned... No you can't use a wifi antenna kit and ASSUME it works - it might, bt really, just get the kit C4 has for this - if it's even needed at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louisraza1 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 You can buy this ZigBee PRO Extender (WCS10-R-X-ZP) to extend the mesh ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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