knowitall Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 HC300 lol the guy should've done you a favor and took that with him too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy.trochez Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 44 minutes ago, RussDraper said: All I keep hearing are reasons why I shouldn't invest any more into Control4 and I should replace it with something else. Even a basic Vera system is better than this thing right now. Russ, the HC300 is an old processor and it'll give you a false sense of what Control4 is all about. If you're used to being a DIYer, have a long conversation with a dealer and ask as many questions as you can before you commit to invest time and money into Control4. Obviously, it'll sound bias when I tell you that I love the system and having previous experience with some of the competition, I can tell you that Control4 is an awesome system. It is hard to beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussDraper Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 hour ago, sonic30101 said: Yes and no-ish... on the basic argument, vera doesnt address AV or multizone audio but you seem like a strong DIY kind of guy so dealing with multiple systems that dont particularly talk to eachother and require swapping back and forth between multiple apps might be your cup of tea. Control4 is great, but not for everyone, i will agree with that. Pretty much all CI systems require software only available to dealers (Crestron, C4, URC, RTI, Savant) No, but LinuxMCE does and it's free. You just have to configure it yourself. This doesn't help answer my original questions, I am trying to get the system working again, is there any way to get into the controller when I set its IP address? The wireless controllers do not see it when I tell them that is the IP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 minute ago, RussDraper said: No, but LinuxMCE does and it's free. You just have to configure it yourself. This doesn't help answer my original questions, I am trying to get the system working again, is there any way to get into the controller when I set its IP address? The wireless controllers do not see it when I tell them that is the IP. You need composer pro and a utility that is part of it - system manager -to re IP it. But just cause you get it iped you won't be able to do anything without composer pro. You need to get the right tv drivers and bindings setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussDraper Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 Ok, so this system has 8 HDTV's throughout the house (and 8 input sources), whole-house audio via sonos, multiple blue-ray and dvd changers, 2 wireless touch screens, about 6 remotes with a little light up lcd display on them, lots of light switches and thermostats. Right now it is on some sort of schedule, things were coming on and off without setting them, the thermostats were a particular annoyance. I figured out how to stop them for now but it would be nice if things just worked as they did before. I don't know why the HC300 is so bad vs something else, can you elaborate? Waiting another few weeks for an installer probably means I'll be bypassing everything just so I can stop the madness (delayed due to storm)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic30101 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 It's not that the HC300 is bad, it is just old. 2 generations old and cannot run the most up to date OS version which limits you on 3rd party drivers which most require 2.6+. Also no Alexa support etc. If they are c4 dimmers/switches and thermostats. You will be pulling them out to put something in its place if you go with another system, same applies for remotes/touchpanels but I figure you already assumed that part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy.trochez Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Waiting a few weeks for a dealer is not normal. Where are you located? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowitall Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Yea sounds like they don't want the job. Someone called me and said they just moved into a house with c4 I'd be out scoping the project that night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowitall Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 The HC300 was discontinued ~5 years ago, so it's at least that, but likely more. Imagine using a 5-7 year old laptop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussDraper Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 5 years?!?!? It was only installed in 2013 I was told! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic30101 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Maybe parts of it, but if it was brand new in 2013 it would have an hc250 or 800. You mentioned 8 distributed sources, is ther an hdmi matrix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 12 minutes ago, RussDraper said: 5 years?!?!? It was only installed in 2013 I was told! Maybe it was used when it was installed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussDraper Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 It is a component 8x8 matrix, does HD technically, all the devices in the house either have component or have a C->HDMI adapter. Some are component over cat5 with special adapters on each end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeItAMudLight Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, msgreenf said: Maybe it was used when it was installed? My thought is that maybe there was a newer controller installed and was still there during open house. Then the HC-300 was swapped in as Director when the owner's left. Thus technically leaving a working system. Just with much less horsepower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMHarman Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 5 years?!?!? It was only installed in 2013 I was told! Russ, now your controller is online have a remote dealer here log in and take a look at the code etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackfiveo1 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 28 minutes ago, RussDraper said: 5 years?!?!? It was only installed in 2013 I was told! Sounds like some alternative facts around here! did Trump sell you the house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussDraper Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 MakeItAMudLight - I don't think they would bother doing that, they left all other TV's and all kinds of electronics. The HC300 is in the pictures I have from when I walked through. SMHarman - the controller seems to only remember the IP for about 15 minutes, I think the DHCP lease time is very low for some reason. By the time I walk around after I've plugged it back into the rest of the network, I can no longer access that Control4 page on it in a web browser. The receiver and other devices show up though, so I know the connection is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeItAMudLight Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, RussDraper said: MakeItAMudLight - I don't think they would bother doing that, they left all other TV's and all kinds of electronics. The HC300 is in the pictures I have from when I walked through. I'm sure you're right. I'm just skeptical of everything. My boss just bought a house for $1.7M that was advertised as being a smart house. The contract included a list of all the components to be left behind. Unfortunately he's not technical at all and didn't have anyone check to see if he was being left everything he needed. Well they took the guts of the system so now he has a house full of TVs, speakers, keypads, etc that literally don't do anything. So things like this do happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitali Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 5 hours ago, blackfiveo1 said: I meant the stuff you want you will spend $1000+ garage door openers/security system/door lock/blinds (depending on brands you go with). You cannot integrate these things without a driver or without a dealer. You will pay for A. License/Driver B. Dealer to install them. You are right, as well you can't install (might be you can, but most people are not) toilet, gas equipment, some electrical stuff and you are ok with it.... C4 not only light control ( buy lutron casseta and you are good), garage gate (buy liftmaster and you are good), TV remote ( buy Harmony- good stuff by a way), thermostat, audio\video distribution system, intercom ( buy Ring), cameras, security, ect- it is all together. and to make all stuff working together and smooth it is not easy job to do. So somebody who understands all that stuff can do it. Oh, it is network based equipment. wow, network stuff are coming..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowitall Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 26 minutes ago, MakeItAMudLight said: My thought is that maybe there was a newer controller installed and was still there during open house. Then the HC-300 was swapped in as Director when the owner's left. Thus technically leaving a working system. Just with much less horsepower. ID'ing the lights/tstat and programming them to do stuff seems like a lot of work to save an 800 and or screw someone over it's probably running 2.2.1 ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitali Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Just in case, I think you can see your controllers IP address (on TV screen). check if it has same network sub net with your router, I mean 192.168.?.? and your router 192.168.??, if all good check ip conflict issue. As well ISP routers are not best choice, Sonos, C4 and few more guys not always work smooth with ISP routers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 14 minutes ago, vitali said: You are right, as well you can't install (might be you can, but most people are not) toilet, gas equipment, some electrical stuff and you are ok with it.... C4 not only light control ( buy lutron casseta and you are good), garage gate (buy liftmaster and you are good), TV remote ( buy Harmony- good stuff by a way), thermostat, audio\video distribution system, intercom ( buy Ring), cameras, security, ect- it is all together. and to make... Ring isn't an intercom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitali Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, msgreenf said: Ring isn't an intercom Actually you are right, it is a door bell with camera... I hope you are agree with rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic30101 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I question an 8 room audio/video distribution solution that uses a harmony remote since there is a 6 room limit and the basestations have 2 emitter ports each. It can he done but total pain in the ass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Dude, don't wait 2 weeks for a some dealer and quit screwing around yourself because it's locked up and you will not make any more progress. Pay one of these guys $75-100 to log on to your system and tell you what you are working with. You could have $20k worth of automation gear or just a pile of trash. The only way to know 100% is to have a pro look at your system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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