Alt Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Hello, Just picked up a new work laptop MacBook Pro M3 Pro should arrive next week. What is everyone using for emulation? Parallels w/ Win11? Was also looking at Crossovers and Whiskey? Like the idea of not having to run a full Windows VM just for composer pro. Most search results on the web are a few years old on the M1 chip. Would love any personal feedback experience with any of the above apps. Thanks, Happy programming! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLite Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Alt said: Hello, Just picked up a new work laptop MacBook Pro M3 Pro should arrive next week. What is everyone using for emulation? Parallels w/ Win11? Was also looking at Crossovers and Whiskey? Like the idea of not having to run a full Windows VM just for composer pro. Most search results on the web are a few years old on the M1 chip. Would love any personal feedback experience with any of the above apps. Thanks, Happy programming! I use Parallels on my Mac Studio, and I used to use Fusion on an older Intel-based Mac. Parallels could not have been easier to set up, and Composer works fine on it. Fusion worked well enough, but (last year at least) the installation process for Apple Silicon devices remained way more complex than it had become on Parallels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Fusion is very simple on apple silicon now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Control4Savant Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Iv been using Parallels for over a decade on all models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew luecke Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Alt said: Hello, Just picked up a new work laptop MacBook Pro M3 Pro should arrive next week. What is everyone using for emulation? Parallels w/ Win11? Was also looking at Crossovers and Whiskey? Like the idea of not having to run a full Windows VM just for composer pro. Most search results on the web are a few years old on the M1 chip. Would love any personal feedback experience with any of the above apps. Thanks, Happy programming! Crossover won't work for composer I use parallels, but both are pretty much the same these days probably Keep in mind, if you have software that needs specialist drivers, the drivers won't work unless it has an Arm driver. But this is rare and won't affect c4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekohn00 Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 I've been using Parallels for years. My subscription just expired. VMware Fusion works too. Not as fast as parallels and will work better with a lot of memory, but it's free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekohn00 Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 5 hours ago, Alt said: Was also looking at Crossovers and Whiskey? Like the idea of not having to run a full Windows VM just for composer pro. whiskey is the wrong thing....you'd be wanting Wine instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prabeau Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 15 hours ago, ekohn00 said: I've been using Parallels for years. My subscription just expired. VMware Fusion works too. Not as fast as parallels and will work better with a lot of memory, but it's free. Free ….only for 30 days is it not ? disregard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekohn00 Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 3 hours ago, prabeau said: Free ….only for 30 days is it not ? disregard Free for personal use. https://www.vmware.com/go/getfusionplayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 28 minutes ago, ekohn00 said: Free for personal use. https://www.vmware.com/go/getfusionplayer Confusion player you can't make a vm. You can only play a v m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekohn00 Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, msgreenf said: Confusion player you can't make a vm. You can only play a v m yeh - No. that's wrong. If you go to the link i have above, go register and you can then create a VM. I couldn't import my parallels (not available for ARM) but just created a brand new VM from the WIN11 ISO. msgreenf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Ok. That didn't use to be the case. W Broadcom closing on VMware this week I expect the free options to go away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekohn00 Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, msgreenf said: Ok. That didn't use to be the case. W Broadcom closing on VMware this week I expect the free options to go away I'm fairly sure it been this way. You may have been grabbing the Pro version?? It's also very misleading on the website - if you go look at pricing, I don't think there are any Free options without a time limit. I think you need to just go download and then register a personal license. And if Broadcom charges, i'll go back to parallels. or just UTM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alt Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 I appreciate everyone's feedback! I created an account to try the VMware Player, (MacBook tracking shows delivery Wed!) Thinking I'll also buy a Parallels Standard 1 time key tomorrow for Cyber Monday. Does anyone have any comparison between Parallels Standard 1 time purchase vs The Pro Subscription? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew luecke Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 They both have trials.. you are best off testing them to see what works best for you.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekohn00 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 10 hours ago, Alt said: I appreciate everyone's feedback! I created an account to try the VMware Player, (MacBook tracking shows delivery Wed!) Thinking I'll also buy a Parallels Standard 1 time key tomorrow for Cyber Monday. Does anyone have any comparison between Parallels Standard 1 time purchase vs The Pro Subscription? Thanks! The comparison is on the website. I ended up using the PRO. vmware still uses intel on the mac Mx processor. The big reason for me going pro, the non-pro is capped at 8MB, so if you want to add memory to a vm, go pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alt Posted November 30, 2023 Author Share Posted November 30, 2023 Update: testing vmware fusion 13.5 for the past 24hrs with win 11 arm. After adjusting system allocation setting its running smooth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekohn00 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 14 hours ago, Alt said: Update: testing vmware fusion 13.5 for the past 24hrs with win 11 arm. After adjusting system allocation setting its running smooth! I was running smoothly, but not smooth enough. I'm confused why it still is written as an intel app, thus using Rosetta to run arm-based windows. What a mess. But it's a free mess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 I use Fusion pro and it's fine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekohn00 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 3 hours ago, msgreenf said: I use Fusion pro and it's fine... I would guess on a windowz box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 15 minutes ago, ekohn00 said: I would guess on a windowz box? No... fusion is mac .. player is windows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew luecke Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 3 hours ago, ekohn00 said: I was running smoothly, but not smooth enough. I'm confused why it still is written as an intel app, thus using Rosetta to run arm-based windows. What a mess. But it's a free mess In all honesty, I'm actually considering moving back to AMD.. And selling my Mac Studio. The other shortcoming unfortunately is things like Nested VT isn't supported Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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