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It just passes audio from Halo to the target device. It (apparently) can do whatever your Siri remote can do, including controlling stuff in your Apple/Homekit ecosystem (so not really limited to Apple TV functionality in that sense). There are solutions that will bring your C4 ecosystem into the Siri/Homekit ecosystem that will allow Siri to control your C4 stuff, but that's not really a Halo feature--- it just allows you to control that stuff from Halo instead of native Siri remote (or HomePod / iPhone). Check out the DTI Homebridge drivers. But that would be a separate project well beyond the scope of adding a Halo to the system. Alternatively, once they get the Josh.ai integration working, then your Halo will become a microphone for Josh and you could use Halo to control lots of C4 stuff. I assume this will be the supported/recommend solution, but quite pricey for most people/projects.

Thanks so much for mentioning this. I just configured driver and it works like a charm. And takes something off my to-do list that I thought would be a big hassle.

Try powering off, then holding "Back" hard-button for 10 seconds while powering back on. You'll need to re-pair the remote.

Do we expect an upgrade to base Halo to support more than Watch/Listen/Lights (i.e., Comfort/Shades/Security) or do we think that will be reserved for the Halo Touch only?

This thread got me thinking, since Halo's current room ID is accessible in programming, is there a way (programmatically) to have Halo switch to a source in the then-current room without having to go through a bunch of IF statements. In other words, it seems easy to say If Custom Button 3 is pressed, then IF current Room ID is Living Room's ID, set Room Living Room source to BLAH." But can "Living Room" be replaced by a the Halo devices variable for Current Room ID? Use case would be for video or audio sources on a matrix. Since they are available in all rooms, it might be handy to have some shortcuts stick with Halo as it travels from room to room. Like I said, you could do this with a bunch of conditionals, but kind of tedious.

On the Halo, most of the time, it switches to the "Speaking to XYV Apple TV" voice input screen with the animated waveform, but the Siri plasma orb thing never shows up on the TV. I'll try toggling Siri enabled on Apple TV, but the native Apple remote works fine with Siri. Sometimes I instead get a pop up saying something like "To use voice, switch to one of these sources" and it show's the *other* Apple TV connected to that TV. If I switch to that, it still doesn't work. On one or two occasions, it did (briefly work), but then crapped out and I can't make it work again. Oddly, I am pretty sure that when it kinda/sorta worked it was with the Halo that refuses to update its firmware (probably unrelated problem, but maybe related). But I'm mainly now trying to get voice to work with the Halo that *does* have current firmware. I do wonder if having two Apple TVs connected to each TV is part of problem. Maybe I will play with that. Although it's not such a weird thing to have a valid A/V path to multiple Apple TVs, is it? Like people who have a matrix? In case relevant, my specific situation is that I have a real physical Apple TV behind every TV and then have a shared Apple TV connected to an IP multicast encoder and then I have an IP receiver behind every TV. Kind of a cheap video distribution system, but just "One to Many" with no video matrix in the mix. As far as C4 is concerned, it's just another Apple TV plugged into an HDMI input on the TV. Use case is to show the same show on as many TVs as I want with sync'ed audio and video (without spending $$$$ on a proper matrix).

Medium long press on "off" button and choose Restart. Long press seems to force power off. To do a reset, power off Halo. Hold "Back" physical button for 10 seconds while powering on. You'll need to re-add Halo via iOS app.

I still haven't been able to get voice control working for Apple TV. It is just me? Pre-Halo, everything updated (3.3.2, current version of Apple Bridge and Apple TV drivers). I have lots (17!) of Apple TVs and they all worked fine with C4 remotes (and native Siri remote voice controls). Halo is on fast 5GHz network, 300Mbs link speed, I see Voice URL assigned in Halo driver. Halo is great as a remote, but voice control just not working. Things I've tried: 1. "Factory Reset" on Apple Bridge driver / re-doing the Homekit integration; 2. "Refreshed" on Apple Bridge driver 3. Refresh connections on Voice Coordinator Agent 4. Delete / Re-add Halo from project 5. Reset of Halo (power off, hold "Back" button for 10 seconds on power on, re-add via iOS app). Not sure if true "Factory Reset," but that is what Control4 told dealer to try. 6. I actually have two Halos and one refuses to update firmware, but neither one works for voice. Just in case having an old firmware Halo in project was causing problems, I removed that Halo from project 7. Re-set DNS settings in Core5 to point to 1.1.1.1. Rebooted main network router and WiFi for good measure. Any ideas?

Got a couple of Halos this morning. Having trouble getting voice to work and also one of them did not do a firmware upgrade (I tried the "force update firmware" driver action). Anyone know how to change WiFi settings? I was going to try a different network. Short PDF manual suggests that you can change WiFi in Settings-->Network, but I don't see how. What about factory reset? Anyone know how to do that?

Update just to close the loop here. Turns out I had a bad optical cable. Doh! Didn't figure that out until I tried another wiring scheme, which now works. I figured out that my main matrix (PulseEight32) will pass-through digital inputs to digital outputs, so I just ran the TV audio from the AVR zone directly to the matrix (instead of to AVR), and then used a digital out zone on matrix to feed back to the AVR for an all-digital signal path. If I force the TV audio format to 5.1, the matrix is able to down mix to stereo for analog zones, but the AVR still plays 5.1. The main zone also still does full Atmos if I revert to "Pass through" on the TV, but then analog zones don't work. But 5.1 still sounds fine (can't tell the difference with most content) so I will leave it that way by default. So it seems that, if you don't use broken cables, Control4 is pretty darn smart about routing decisions. I have also chained another 16x16 channel matrix tied to the PulseEight and a distant 8x8 matrix in our guest house (with audio routed between Core 5 and distant EA-5) and everything seem to "just work." Impressive.

You need to be signed in to your Apple ID account on Apple TV and have Homekit enabled on Apple TV. Set it to never sleep. You need to assign Apple TV to a Homekit room. It need not be in the same C4 Room, but obviously easier to keep track that way. And then toggle Apple TV control off/on in iOS app and it will guide you through adding the Homekit Bridge via Home App. If still not working, do the Factory Reset driver action in Apple Bridge C4 driver, then enable Apple TV control in C4 iOS app again.

I'm daring to dream....

If Apple TV is your main media hub, then with factory Siri remote or, now, Halo, you can basically do all that. Sometimes with a hybrid of voice and clicks. In other words, you use voice to enter the search text and then use clicks to choose from search results. Pretty efficient. If you are precise enough, you can, with one voice command, start specific media. So you can say "find tv shows starring Pedro Pascal" and you pick from the list. Or if you say "Play latest episode of the Mandolorian," it will do so with no clicks. Ditto for music. So Halo + Apple TVs and we are already where you want to be. This assume you already have a session going in the room with Apple TV as the source. If you only have one possible voice control target configured (say Apple TV), then is also seems possible to just grab the Halo from a "Room Off" state, press voice button and say "Play latest episode of Ted Lasso," and it would buffer that audio, start up the Apple TV session, delay for an appropriate amount of time, then feed the voice file to the Apple TV and away you go.

Thanks. Specific situation is that I have an AVR driving Master Bedroom multi-channel zone on its main zone and Master Bathroom driven off Zone 2 of AVR. We added a third zone for Master Closet that is NOT connected to AVR, so it needs to be fed from matrix. In other areas of house, I use (unused) Zone 2 output of other AVRs to feed matrix, and this works for this exact same concept. I'd like to be able to listen to audio sourced from Master TV in the new zone. So I split the optical feed from backhaul balun with one optical going into AVR (as before) and the other feeding the Matrix. C4 sees the path and thinks it is valid (all zones show up in navigator as valid zones to join session), but no sound. New zone works for other sources (from Core 5 feeds via matrix, for example). I set the Apple TV and TV to send stereo PCM since i know there are downmixing limitations on the matrix. Still no audio. Even though the AVR for Master is not really dealing with video (all video sources are local to the TV), my next attempt is going to be to extract audio from HDMI out of AVR (I'm hoping it leaves audio in the HDMI stream) and route that to matrix. It would just be convenient to see how C4 thinks it is routing audio. I have other situations where there are multiple valid paths and I'd like to know which one C4 is picking. I've also have situation where C4 will choose a path through the backhaul of other TVs resulting in seemingly random TVs powering on, presumably because C4 have formed a path through the TV even though other valid paths exist. I'm familiar for path setter driver, and have used successfully elsewhere, but not working for me here so far. I clearly don't fully understand how C4 makes routing decisions and agree that it would be great to be able to get it to prefer the path that I want it to pick. Like: don't use a TV as part of a path if the TV is currently off. I'll keep plugging away.

I actually think the Halo might be good enough for a lot of scenarios where people would have previously gotten a Neeo, and the Halo Touch might (for new construction installs) displace some T4's and/or Core 1s in secondary rooms. The way I'm thinking about it, if you are using the remote for media control (versus media browsing), the Halo seems fine, especially where you're using the Apple TV interface for searching/browsing for video and music content. Touch seems like overkill. I think the Touch would be better when you ALSO want easier light/shade/HVAC/etc. device control, unrelated to A/V activity. I see it as a merging of SR260 and the iOS app into one device. For my specific situation, I am debating between Halo + Core 1 versus Halo Touch in several secondary rooms. Not the best screen for watching CCTV feeds, but if Halo Touch can do that, it might make me skip the Core 1s. Especially since my NVR (SecuritySpy) has an Apple TV app (for live and recorded footage) that can (presumably) be brought on screen via Halo voice command.

I'm trying to diagnose an apparent audio routing problem. Is there a way to get to display the current audio path from source to end point, explicitly showing each node along the route? Thanks

Question for those who are lucky enough to have their Halo's. For those using with Apple TV, I am assuming that the "Voice button" on Halo just passes audio to the specific Apple TV being displayed in the room and behaves *exactly* the same as the factory Siri remote that ships with Apple TV, correct? I can't imagine how it would be implemented otherwise, but just wanted to confirm. In particular, I am assuming that Siri voice input unrelated to searching and navigation work the same as native remote. For example, Homekit home automation commands like "Turn on all the light in here," (assuming you have actual Homekit devices). If this is true, then, together with the DTI Homebridge/Siri drivers (which basically publishes yours C4 devices as virtual Homekit devices), we should be able to get voice control of C4 devices with location context *without* having to have a HomePod mini in the room (although that would still be useful for hands-free voice commands). I guess this further assumes that the Apple TV is permanently assigned to a specific C4 room and not on a matrix (although, in theory, C4 could tell Apple TV to switch its Homekit "room" on the fly-- but that will probably never happen). I have a slight concern that Apple/C4 might "tag" the C4 voice input and put a ring fence around what sort of commands it allows (possibly narrower than what is allowed with native Siri remote). It would be extra cool if there is a way to configure Halo to route voice input to a specified Apple TV (for example, the one in the room that the Halo is connected to) in a default state when the Apple TV is NOT part of a current session. So if the TV is off, I can still grab the Halo, wake it up, then hit the voice button and say "Open the shades" and magic will happen. Perhaps a niche use case right now, but not too crazy if C4's ambitions are to move toward more generalized voice control. I hope that all makes sense.

I also had some glitches with new driver. I did the "factory reset" from Apple Bridge driver, then re-enable Apple TV control from C4 app, then add the bridge and remote for each Apple TV. You have to place each in a Homekit room, but I don't think it matters where, so I just clicked through. All seems good again. Didn't re-do anything in Composer (other than doing the Factory Reset driver action)

I also have the 83" G2 (great TV, BTW). TV seems unresponsive to source switching for a bit after power-on (even when you turn off all the power saving stuff). Maybe 10-20 seconds. If you wait, it will work. Not ideal, of course.

It was NOT doing that, but I just rebooted the EA-5 and now seems to be working! So maybe just a glitch. I was also changing some video source bindings, so maybe it got confused? IDK. So i guess nevermind....

Hello. I have an EA-5 (not main controller) plugged into an HDMI matrix serving three TVs in three different rooms. When a remote in a room calls for OSD, the Matrix switches the TV in that room to show OSD and remote controls maps to OSD. No problems. But I want the OSD to show the home screen for *that* room (i.e., the room that most recently called for OSD). I realize that if two rooms call for OSD, only the most recent room's home screen would appear. I view that as an edge case and am not worried about it. I see how to trigger programming based on a room switching source to OSD, but I don't see a way to force the OSD to show that room's home screen. Is there a way? Thanks.

I turned this on. No change. I'm still getting same exact errors that @PumpUpVolume documented above.

I'm trying this now. Thanks for tip.

I think it must be a combo of some parts used in *some* Neeos being bad and/or assembled defectively and/or buggy firmware and/or don't play nice with *some* WAPs. So, while I place blame on my particular Neeo, I don't think all Neeos are inherently shitty....

I'm the same way: Neeo is *only* device that does not reliably work. I have >100 WiFi and >100 Ethernet clients active and everything works great--- except Neeo. I'm using all Ubiquiti gear, BTW.