HouseLogix Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Video Demo Driver Info This is the one driver every Control4 project needs. Now home owners can have the flexibility to program basic macros or "routines" for their own system from within the Control4 iOS or Android app, touch screens, PC\Mac application, or any other Control4 navigator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Can you use this in conjunction with the wakeup agent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I must say, this looks like an incredibly powerful driver (especially for users - family members - who don't use HE). The million dollar question for me is, does this work on HC and EA controllers OSD and on V2 and T3 Touchscreens... Anither important question is can you set up logic rules based on Control variables that the user has created (I suspect not, so this may be a wish list item!). A "yes" to the first and I'll be buying this (despite the high price). A "yes" to the second and I'll be excited ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 As I believe it's based on the MSP proxy, it should work on all currently supported UIs, Flash through T3 touchpanels, and technically, even on system remotes, although I'm not sure I'd want to drive it on a remote... As far as the other question, I don't know, I don't speak for Houselogix, obviously. RyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfh Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 What is the MSP proxy? This looks interesting, though other than the ease of scheduling an event, I'm not sure I see a significant benefit to those that have HE and/or don't have family members that would create their own events. That said, it adds a lot of control and flexibility to a C4 system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMG1199 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Can you install drivers in HE Composer or must drivers be added by dealers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 3 minutes ago, AMG1199 said: Can you install drivers in HE Composer or must drivers be added by dealers? this driver, like all others, has to be dealer installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 15 minutes ago, jfh said: What is the MSP proxy? MSP = Media services Proxy. It is the interface that COntrol4 users for media services like TuneIn or Pandora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouseLogix Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share Posted February 26, 2016 16 hours ago, msgreenf said: Can you use this in conjunction with the wakeup agent? You could program a routine to fire when your wakeup scene executes. We've also received requests already for Sunrise and Sunset in the built-in scheduler. 13 hours ago, South Africa C4 user said: I must say, this looks like an incredibly powerful driver (especially for users - family members - who don't use HE). The million dollar question for me is, does this work on HC and EA controllers OSD and on V2 and T3 Touchscreens... Anither important question is can you set up logic rules based on Control variables that the user has created (I suspect not, so this may be a wish list item!). A "yes" to the first and I'll be buying this (despite the high price). A "yes" to the second and I'll be excited ? As RyanE mentioned, this will work everywhere that MSP (Media Service Proxy) currently works. That includes the apps, touchscreens, and various navigators provided by Control4. We'll be adding features for conditional and variable programming down the road. Right now, a routine is a list of rules/steps/actions that execute in a linear fashion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 This looks cool, but is rather pricey. It would be a nice addition as it's more convenient than firing up HE...my kids could program things, etc... BUT the one thing that really seems to be lacking is the ability to program the Routine to execute from a button press within the app. Is there any way to get that built in as well, to where you can set the action....as in your example video, tie it to a button press? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vstar Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 look like a very nice and useful driver, great job. out of curiosity how are the routines backed up? if someone were to create many elaborate routines and they had a main controller crash or required a project reload for some reason would all the routines be lost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouseLogix Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share Posted February 26, 2016 1 hour ago, ILoveC4 said: This looks cool, but is rather pricey. It would be a nice addition as it's more convenient than firing up HE...my kids could program things, etc... BUT the one thing that really seems to be lacking is the ability to program the Routine to execute from a button press within the app. Is there any way to get that built in as well, to where you can set the action....as in your example video, tie it to a button press? We definitely have plans to advance it even further, as it stands right now, you'd need your dealer to tie keypad buttons to various routines when they install the driver. Once that's setup, you'll be able to modify those routines in the future. To execute a routine at will, you can always use the app to fire them off. 53 minutes ago, vstar said: look like a very nice and useful driver, great job. out of curiosity how are the routines backed up? if someone were to create many elaborate routines and they had a main controller crash or required a project reload for some reason would all the routines be lost? Great question, right now the routines and schedules are written to disk on the controller, separate from the project file. Our near term road map includes downloading and uploading these files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 12 minutes ago, HouseLogix said: Great question, right now the routines and schedules are written to disk on the controller, separate from the project file. Our near term road map includes downloading and uploading these files. when you do this will this allow you to program routines via the import file? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I've asked my dealer to buy this and install it next time he is at my house. Thinking about how I want to use it, can one have multiple instances of the driver with more schedules / routines available in some rooms than in others? I have 2 Touchscreens outside (patio and jacuzzi - they are locked down to access these rooms only ) and would like to be able to access, edit and fire off routines that relate to my irrigation system from these. However, I would not want to access other routines that could, for instance, be security related from these Touchscreens (rooms). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blub Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 This looks very interesting, sort of a peek at "on screen programming" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfh Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Can I call an existing macro from within a routine? (I'm wondering if that is alluded to in the Routine Event 1-10 comment in the doc. If so, would we be limited to using 10 macros?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 56 minutes ago, jfh said: Can I call an existing macro from within a routine? (I'm wondering if that is alluded to in the Routine Event 1-10 comment in the doc. If so, would we be limited to using 10 macros?) That is how I read the documentation... Hope so... And hope they remove the limit of 10 in due course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouseLogix Posted February 27, 2016 Author Share Posted February 27, 2016 20 hours ago, msgreenf said: when you do this will this allow you to program routines via the import file? Our initial intention for the export/import is backup and restore purposes. Theoretically, what's to stop you from backing up a set of standard routines as a dealer and roll them out to every project. There are complications related to that though, as we reference individual devices by their unique ID, which wouldn't necessarily be the same on every system. 19 hours ago, South Africa C4 user said: I've asked my dealer to buy this and install it next time he is at my house. Thinking about how I want to use it, can one have multiple instances of the driver with more schedules / routines available in some rooms than in others? I have 2 Touchscreens outside (patio and jacuzzi - they are locked down to access these rooms only ) and would like to be able to access, edit and fire off routines that relate to my irrigation system from these. However, I would not want to access other routines that could, for instance, be security related from these Touchscreens (rooms). Yes, we haven't restricted the number of instances you can add to a project. So independent sets of routines and schedules could co-exist, and you can choose which rooms that instance is an available source in. 13 hours ago, jfh said: Can I call an existing macro from within a routine? (I'm wondering if that is alluded to in the Routine Event 1-10 comment in the doc. If so, would we be limited to using 10 macros?) You've got it. A routine can fire off a Control4 event, where you could place any typical Composer level programming to occur. There are currently 10 available, which is an arbitrarily low number that we can easily raise. It's also worth noting that this works both ways; Composer programming can fire off any routine you create, which makes adjustments easy without Composer access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouseLogix Posted March 10, 2016 Author Share Posted March 10, 2016 Just released an update that includes the option to schedule items at sunrise and sunset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 My dealer downloaded the 48 hour test version of the driver for me and I must say that it looks like it will be a really powerful driver. I have 2 problems at present: 1. Most importantly, while I can get the driver to trigger lights, I cannot get it to work with relays. And that is what I would use it for most. For instance, I have relays controlling each of my irrigation zones. If I "turn on" any of these relays via this driver it does nothing. Whereas if I turn on a light it works perfectly! 2. If the test version worked for the above I would almost definitely buy the driver although I must say the recommended price of US$200 does feel a little rich... I can see loads of uses for the driver and also lots of improvements that could be made to it to make it even cooler, e.g.: 1. Allowing one to select days to apply to a schedule via tick boxes (e.g. Monday / Wednesday and Friday). 2. The ability to activate and deactivate schedules without deleting them. Thus a schedule can be used again and can simply be turned on and off. 3. The ability to edit schedules without deleting and recreating them. 4. The ability to have a variable delay (preferably 10 or more of these). For instance, I would like to have each of my irrigation circuits (7 zones) run for 10 minutes right now but in a few months I would want to change 10 minutes to 15 minutes without having to recreate all 7 routines! 5. The ability to have delays other than 1 minute, 10 minutes and 30 minutes although I realise you can build with these options. 6. The ability to delete items other than the last item in a routine. 7. The ability to add items to a routine other than at the end of the routine. All that said, thanks for what looks like a very powerful driver! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flydutch_70 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 I was waiting for this level of access. My wife being able to change lights and wake up schedules from her iPhone = priceless. please keep posting updates as evolves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
profici27 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 This looks like a great driver and certainly a good middle ground for customers that want to customised schedules but are intimidated by composer HE. Any other user feedback in addition to SA C4 user's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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