C4Newbie Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 I'm buying and installing a new ceiling fan that I'd like to control through C4. Should I buy a "smart" ceiling fan or a "dumb" one (no pun intended) and should I install a C4 Fan Speed controller or use a driver or something? Any advise much appreciated. I'll probably pick something with a little style though like a Casablanca or Big Ass Fan, etc. Also not sure if I'll get it with a light or not. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lippavisual Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 If going the C4 route, you will need to purchase a dumb fan (pull chain style) so you can use the C4 fan speed controller. If it has a light, then you will need to make sure there is a spare Hot wire you can use for the light load and will also require a separate switch/dimmer. Typically, you would have your power feed going to the wall box location. Then a 14-3 (white, black, red) with ground up to your fan box. You wire the load output of the C4 fan controller to the black of the 14-3 wire and then wire the C4 switch/dimmers load output to the red of the 14-3. Then up at your fan box, using the 14-3 and fan leads, wire all neutrals together (white), wire all grounds together (bare copper or green), wire black to fan load, wire red to the light load. You also have some choices of using some "smart fans" that can integrate with the Matterlinx RF controller. Will require research on your part if the fan is compatible with the frequencies that Matterlinx works with. I also think that there is a driver for BAF, however I've never used it nor do I know where to find it. That should get you going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ichbinbose Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 The integration with the haiku fan is pretty cool Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMG1199 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 I have Haiku fans and they integrate perfectly with C4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanchow Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Our Big Ass Fans Haiku driver for Control4 will integrate the Haiku IP controlled fans with two way control and feedback over the fans and lights. https://www.chowmainsoft.com/big-ass-fanslights-haiku-driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejn1 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 1 hour ago, alanchow said: Our Big Ass Fans Haiku driver for Control4 will integrate the Haiku IP controlled fans with two way control and feedback over the fans and lights. https://www.chowmainsoft.com/big-ass-fanslights-haiku-driver Very nice. I have 3 Haiku's in my house and they are awesome. Assume you only have to purchase 1 driver for your overall home to control multiple fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanchow Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 44 minutes ago, ejn1 said: Very nice. I have 3 Haiku's in my house and they are awesome. Assume you only have to purchase 1 driver for your overall home to control multiple fans? That is correct. All of our drivers are site licences which means you can use as many instances as you want for the one project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4 User Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Alan, I know your driver works with the Haiku fans and fan lights, but does your driver work with the Haiku ceiling lights? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanchow Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 1 hour ago, C4 User said: Alan, I know your driver works with the Haiku fans and fan lights, but does your driver work with the Haiku ceiling lights? Thank you. I'm not sure to be honest. It should in theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4 User Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 22 hours ago, alanchow said: I'm not sure to be honest. It should in theory. I emailed Haiku today and learned that these lights are IP controlled. It appears they have both dimming and color control. Does your driver manage both dimming can color on these lights? If not, any chance you will be updating the driver? Thanks much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanchow Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 2 hours ago, C4 User said: I emailed Haiku today and learned that these lights are IP controlled. It appears they have both dimming and color control. Does your driver manage both dimming can color on these lights? If not, any chance you will be updating the driver? Thanks much. Our driver does on/off and dimming only. I strongly suggest you test the driver out prior to purchasing a licence as i know it works with the lights built into the fans but unsure of the standalone ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejn1 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Alan, I have your trial driver for a few days and I can't access it via remote iPhone away from house. I hit a button, then it reverts back a few seconds later. Any steer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanchow Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 1 hour ago, ejn1 said: Alan, I have your trial driver for a few days and I can't access it via remote iPhone away from house. I hit a button, then it reverts back a few seconds later. Any steer? The driver polls for feedback. The iPhone reverts back to the original state if it has not received confirmation that it has changed to that setting. It most likely has not obtained feedback by that time but if you wait t should come in eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejn1 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 1 hour ago, alanchow said: The driver polls for feedback. The iPhone reverts back to the original state if it has not received confirmation that it has changed to that setting. It most likely has not obtained feedback by that time but if you wait t should come in eventually. I tried like 3 times in a row and on different fans, same result. Seems like a problem do t you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrick Cain Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Hi Ejn, You can check if the master driver expired, as you had mentioned that you're using a trial version of the driver. With Composer HE, or your dealer can go to the driver properties page, it should display either valid or expired. Could be the cause since you're seeing issues with multiple fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanchow Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 19 minutes ago, ejn1 said: I tried like 3 times in a row and on different fans, same result. Seems like a problem do t you think? We actually have no control over 4sight. The communications is the same for the driver as the phone and controller joins the same network. if it works at home it will work away from home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanchow Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, Derrick Cain said: Hi Ejn, You can check if the master driver expired, as you had mentioned that you're using a trial version of the driver. With Composer HE, or your dealer can go to the driver properties page, it should display either valid or expired. Could be the cause since you're seeing issues with multiple fans. That is also a very good point. This is the most likely problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejn1 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 1 hour ago, alanchow said: That is also a very good point. This is the most likely problem. THanks ALan and Derrick. I'm not seeing in the driver fields how to see if expired. How long is the trial period for ALan? I've only had it for 3-4 days I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejn1 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Derrick Cain said: Hi Ejn, You can check if the master driver expired, as you had mentioned that you're using a trial version of the driver. With Composer HE, or your dealer can go to the driver properties page, it should display either valid or expired. Could be the cause since you're seeing issues with multiple fans. Thanks Derrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanchow Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, ejn1 said: THanks ALan and Derrick. I'm not seeing in the driver fields how to see if expired. How long is the trial period for ALan? I've only had it for 3-4 days I believe Trial goes for 48 hours so definately expired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejn1 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Just now, alanchow said: Trial goes for 48 hours so definately expired. OK, Thats a very fast trial period.... Like Lamborghini fast ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 OK, Thats a very fast trial period.... Like Lamborghini fast ! It's a pretty standard driver trial period. It's meant to prove things work. Which you should be able to do in 48hrs Sent from my STV100-1 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejn1 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 14 hours ago, msgreenf said: It's a pretty standard driver trial period. It's meant to prove things work. Which you should be able to do in 48hrs Sent from my STV100-1 using Tapatalk I guess I'm use to software trials which typically are longer. I think the objective should be (IMHO) that the driver should satisfy the customer needs from a functionality standpoint vs just operate without error otherwise you will have someone potentially be dissatisfied with the value of it and not buy anything else. 48hrs may cut it close for some customers and not sure what you lose by giving 7 or 14 days but that's the developers call. ps, in this case, i bought the driver. Thanks Alan for answering questions above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB1 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Great information here. If buying a Haiku and use the driver does it matter if I use purchase and setup with the Haiku wall control or a Control4 switch? Anyone know if it works with their Isis line of fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanchow Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 5 hours ago, JB1 said: Great information here. If buying a Haiku and use the driver does it matter if I use purchase and setup with the Haiku wall control or a Control4 switch? Anyone know if it works with their Isis line of fans? Our driver only requires wifi control over the haiku. Once you have that then you don't need any additional products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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