Nitin Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 I want to change the "monitor mode" on my T3 tablets when I change the value of a variable. I want to do this so that i can use the cameras on the T3 to monitor my home when I am away. This automation works just fine in composer, however, the actual tablet does not go into monitor mode. But, when I do a "Refresh navigators" from composer, the T3 tablet picks up the change and goes into monitor mode. Questions: Is there a delay between the setting updating in composer and the tablet picking it up, so this is a non-issue? If the above is not true, then can I trigger a "refresh navigators" programmatically? Bottom line is that I want to be able to flip the T3 into monitor mode if I am remote. Any insights are welcome. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treynolen Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 I do this in my own home and I trigger the programming by the status of the alarm system (i.e... When Alarm armed Away -> monitor mode/auto answer on the tablets). I don't have to do any sort of refresh and it happens pretty much immediately. What do you mean by "This automation works just fine in composer"? It seems that it doesn't work if you are having to do something else manually, but I may be misunderstanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitin Posted April 26, 2022 Author Share Posted April 26, 2022 1 minute ago, treynolen said: I do this in my own home and I trigger the programming by the status of the alarm system (i.e... When Alarm armed Away -> monitor mode/auto answer on the tablets). I don't have to do any sort of refresh and it happens pretty much immediately. What do you mean by "This automation works just fine in composer"? It seems that it doesn't work if you are having to do something else manually, but I may be misunderstanding. What I mean by that is in composer I can see the appropriate checkbox for "monitor mode" on the T3 settings turn on, but when I call the T3 using my phone, it does not show me video. However, when I send a "refresh navigator" command from composer, the T3 shows video when called from my phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 To answer your question, there a few drivers that allow you to refresh navigators programmatically. I use @msgreenf’s Renamer driver to do this. It is available from Blackwire. in terms of why you need to refresh navigators in your use case, I am stumped as I would not have thought that this was necessary! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitin Posted April 26, 2022 Author Share Posted April 26, 2022 3 hours ago, South Africa C4 user said: To answer your question, there a few drivers that allow you to refresh navigators programmatically. I use @msgreenf’s Renamer driver to do this. It is available from Blackwire. in terms of why you need to refresh navigators in your use case, I am stumped as I would not have thought that this was necessary! Thanks for the driver recommendation. Regarding my problem, your thoughts are that once the checkbox to enter monitor mode is checked, the tablet should immediately convert to that mode? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 2 hours ago, James McKernan said: Thanks for the driver recommendation. Regarding my problem, your thoughts are that once the checkbox to enter monitor mode is checked, the tablet should immediately convert to that mode? So my touchscreens convert to monitor mode as soon as I send the relevant command in programming. When you say tablet, are you referring to a portable T3/T4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitin Posted April 28, 2022 Author Share Posted April 28, 2022 On 4/26/2022 at 9:51 PM, South Africa C4 user said: So my touchscreens convert to monitor mode as soon as I send the relevant command in programming. When you say tablet, are you referring to a portable T3/T4? @South Africa C4 user I mean T3. That's the model I have in my home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 3 hours ago, James McKernan said: @South Africa C4 user I mean T3. That's the model I have in my home. If it’s an in wall T3, refreshing navigators should not be necessary. If it is a portable T3, then I can’t comment as I have never used one. It seems surprising that a refresh navigators is needed but maybe they are just sleepy and need some sort of nudge to update the setting (and I guess that refreshing navigators would give that nudge). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitin Posted April 28, 2022 Author Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 minute ago, South Africa C4 user said: If it’s an in wall T3, refreshing navigators should not be necessary. If it is a portable T3, then I can’t comment as I have never used one. It seems surprising that a refresh navigators is needed but maybe they are just sleepy and need some sort of nudge to update the setting (and I guess that refreshing navigators would give that nudge). I am going to update the OS to the latest version and see if that solves this. Thanks for all the replies. South Africa C4 user 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo1738 Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 Tried this at home on my own, worked without refresh on in wall T3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitin Posted May 1, 2022 Author Share Posted May 1, 2022 12 minutes ago, Neo1738 said: Tried this at home on my own, worked without refresh on in wall T3. Thanks. I'll need to dig into what else could be the issue then. Seems like this is isolated on my instal. I'll try and use hard wired connection vs wifi. Not that it should make a diff, but who knows! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 On 4/28/2022 at 10:33 AM, South Africa C4 user said: maybe they are just sleepy ding ding ding! They should eventually change their setting, but it may take longer. Refresh nav as such isn't required for the change you are trying to make, but a refresh nav will force all devices to communicate so any other settings chenges would be 'seen' by the portable devices as well. That said, I would expect portable screens to still change their monitoring state within a minute, maybe at the VERY worst 5 minutes. If it isn't than I would indeed wonder if it's somehow falling off the network (or the router's connected devices list) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo1738 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 Tried w portable and instant change on app and portable T3 without refresh as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david@berto.co.uk Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 On 4/26/2022 at 3:01 PM, treynolen said: I do this in my own home and I trigger the programming by the status of the alarm system (i.e... When Alarm armed Away -> monitor mode/auto answer on the tablets). I don't have to do any sort of refresh and it happens pretty much immediately. What do you mean by "This automation works just fine in composer"? It seems that it doesn't work if you are having to do something else manually, but I may be misunderstanding. My Berto Agent driver, https://prod.berto.io/c4z/Berto_Agent.c4z, provides the ability to programatically Refresh Navigators. Nitin and Andrew luecke 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitin Posted May 4, 2022 Author Share Posted May 4, 2022 28 minutes ago, david@berto.co.uk said: My Berto Agent driver, https://prod.berto.io/c4z/Berto_Agent.c4z, provides the ability to programatically Refresh Navigators. This is fantastic. THANK YOU! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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