Control4Savant

I have been trying to beta SofaBaton as much as possible on agnostic systems.

I couldn’t disagree more…

They need to find someone else. Most good dealers enjoy taking on existing systems. As long as its a good experience it will always lead to additional business later on.

Feel free to be deliberately ignorant and repeat yourself. Im out.

Maybe its a scam…

Sorry, no Canada shipping…

I guess you should stop dealing with any pros then…

Don’t talk about it because its not official is different from no information about it. Get over yourself and whatever secret society you think we dealers have meetings with /s

Lol.. a scam?! wow.

Im a Savant, Control4 and Josh dealer… they do not integrate. C4 and Crestron only.

No one said dont worry about it until it comes out… we said theres nothing to discuss at the moment and no info to share. Early conversations about breaking features or products are literally dealer teasers to keep us impress with brand and system development and in-turn bring attention to clients about what may be available in the future. There are LOTS of things that never happen or take years to even reach beta. Right now nothing about zigbee upgrades has been discussed.

You just repeated everything we have discussed on this site about Josh… and Savant doesnt have Josh integration nor do I see it happening with their new deeper dive into Apple hardware and Siri integrations…

I get your vibe and I generally agree that conversations get snubbed here just because of bs… but the OP is specifically asking for more detail about stuff that there is no information about and will likely not be here anytime soon.

Theres nothing wrong with what you are saying here. My point with Elan is distribution level dealerships are lower tier and a lot of times require little to no requirements besides basic activity. Again, they can certainly can you dealership just like any AV dealership line.

We seem to be repeating ourselves…

Im not sure what you mean by dealer model… you can get Elan from distributions around the country as an approved vendor so thats not a direct dealership no. You do have to be vetted in the same sense as other yes. I have HA “beta” systems running for clients who really want to pull away from dealer based products but most of them are still using the major 3rd party options like Lutron, Sonos, ReoLink etc… its really a full time job and the service can be much more frustrating at times. There is only so much resetting you can do of a consumer product with someone else’s cloud credentials.

I have a pair (2) of Revel L42 outdoor speakers that are brand new. They were left over from a larger install a year ago and I planned to use them for myself but outdoor designs have changed. Awesome sound with an integrated LED to add to a normal landscape lighting 12v system. I also have (3) Triad Bronze in-wall LCRs that are new. Originally ordered for a custom golf sim project that never happened. I would like to get $1500 for either. Receipt and warranty included.

Bump. Matrix are sold.

LOL…Savant just restructured their whole bottom tier into distribution only. Tech is a fickle one. Always plan accordingly.

This is market specific. A place like Chicago had close to 50 dealers in the metro area at one point. It’s also honestly dealer specific. There are plenty of dealers who have active accounts in several brands that are “unlisted”. But yes, it is possible that they would cut you at any point they feel is no longer in their best interest. Thats been that way for a while.

It was purchased by Nice a while back so it’s pretty much a distribution product. It hits the same price brackets with some added features like MyQ integration … They are changing over everything to “Nice” branding and a new UI so they might become more competitive with some better looking hardware too… EDITED - 2023 systems updates look ….nice… https://na.niceforyou.com/features/nice-elan-smart-home/

Elan

Have you worked with the product professionally before or carry any other elevated brands? Unfortunately you are likely SOL. I am not sure what market you are in but being a 20 year old brand, there are an abundance of established dealers in most areas.

Sold.

There has been some transition here in the Savant world as well…. There ware licenses for each “OS version”. So you would buy a lic. for OS2 in the C4 comparison and then purchase an upgrade lic. when wanting the upgrade to OS3. This isn’t a requirement, the latest version of the previous OS still being updated and supported. The lics. used to be dependent on the 4 different host levels.. the first being included, the second being <$1k and the last two being thousands. A lic. might seem like a lot but paired with a Mac mini for $900 and the costs were comparable to larger processors from competitors. “4site” access in the Control4 sense is free and automatic w/ Savant. They had added an extra lic. for more advanced features accessed remotely but retraced it. They are moving now toward only integrated hosts (soundbar and amp) or self provided Mac hardware with OS lics. and lics. for deep integrations with big 3rd party system APIs