msgreenf Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Roku... Roku... EverAction and SMHarman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EverAction Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, msgreenf said: Roku... Roku... Totally. In the C4 world, Roku is the undisputed king no question. I feel like they're the gold standard for CI. SMHarman and msgreenf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 minute ago, EverAction said: Totally. In the C4 world, Roku is the undisputed king no question. I feel like they're the gold standard for CI. yup - rock solid and watch --> Apps on your remote doesn't get any better! Especially if you are just using Netflix, Hulu and the likes, no advantages of ATV SMHarman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therockhr Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, EverAction said: Let's not embellish too much. Their walled garden is the issue here, not so much bugs. Granted iOS 13 has been a bit bumpy, but we were due for that considering how iOS 12 focused on tightening things up and 13's focus is adding features. Anyways I digress. Instead of providing a method of control outside of their walled garden, their idea of using HomeBridge as a proxy into the garden has quite obviously not gone well. Will it get fixed at some point, hopefully. But IMO, the damage has been done with integrating Apple stuff a long time ago. Apple diehards don't care about the shortcomings in regards to integration, but they are losing the fringe users. yep. I have an ATV 3 (?) that uses the old unsupported IP driver and it is still kicking but I use Roku as my main streamer now. I only use the apple tv for airplay and the apple movies I have previously bought. apple is supposed to be making an apple tv app for roku for their apple tv + service. wonder if it will let users view movies and tv shows they have bought as well (that is if they even make the app outside of ATV). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EverAction Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Just now, therockhr said: yep. I have an ATV 3 (?) that uses the old unsupported IP driver and it is still kicking but I use Roku as my main streamer now. I only use the apple tv for airplay and the apple movies I have previously bought. apple is supposed to be making an apple tv app for roku for their apple tv + service. wonder if it will let users view movies and tv shows they have bought as well (that is if they even make the app outside of ATV). Hope so. It would be the nail in the coffin for AppleTV for CI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 If you have a Apple TV 4K and HC800 you use the Apple Driver Gen 1-3 IP This can use IP address or IR if you have updated to iSO 13 on your Apple TV It works Great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therockhr Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 On 10/1/2019 at 4:44 PM, therockhr said: yep. I have an ATV 3 (?) that uses the old unsupported IP driver and it is still kicking but I use Roku as my main streamer now. I only use the apple tv for airplay and the apple movies I have previously bought. apple is supposed to be making an apple tv app for roku for their apple tv + service. wonder if it will let users view movies and tv shows they have bought as well (that is if they even make the app outside of ATV). https://www.macrumors.com/2019/10/15/roku-apple-tv-app-available-today/ Roku today announced that the Apple TV app will be available on its platform starting today, allowing users to access their iTunes libraries of movies and TV shows, Apple TV Channels, and soon Apple TV+. With this news I dont know how much I will be firing up my ATV anymore. This should be pretty cool! EverAction and SMHarman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EverAction Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 3 hours ago, therockhr said: https://www.macrumors.com/2019/10/15/roku-apple-tv-app-available-today/ Roku today announced that the Apple TV app will be available on its platform starting today, allowing users to access their iTunes libraries of movies and TV shows, Apple TV Channels, and soon Apple TV+. With this news I dont know how much I will be firing up my ATV anymore. This should be pretty cool! Ding dong the witch is dead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Still ATV is a beautiful interface and much better viewing experience, integration is limited for now but let’s wait and see they are always late in entrance but catching up in 10-15 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 What makes it a better viewing experience? 4k is 4k... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therockhr Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Amr said: Still ATV is a beautiful interface and much better viewing experience, integration is limited for now but let’s wait and see they are always late in entrance but catching up in 10-15 years That’s true. The ATV interface is very nice but right now I think the features of Roku and it’s integration make it the clear choice for anyone using Control4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 But what makes it a better viewing experience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 hours ago, msgreenf said: But what makes it a better viewing experience? Plus who cares about the interface, with Roku you just select the service directly anyway..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 13 hours ago, msgreenf said: But what makes it a better viewing experience? Why people drive BMW’s while there other cars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Why people drive BMW’s while there other cars?You didn't answer the question. You avoided it. So sounds like you want atv for status Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Amr said: Why people drive BMW’s while there other cars? You tell me, and while you're add it tell me what you mean by a better viewing experience. Does the ATV make for a more comfortable seating arrangement while watching? Is it more quiet? Handles better? How does it do those things for you? These are simple, honest questions, and making a comparison like you did doesn't any questions, as per above, that's just dodging it. Again, AppleTV has a nice interface to select apps....but with a Roku you wouldn't need ANY interface as you'd just go straight to apps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 How is Netflix better on the Apple TV? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therockhr Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Why are you 2 doing this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-defunct- Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, therockhr said: Why are you 2 doing this? I can make it three. With the Apple app on the Roku, there is really no need to buy an ATV. It's actually easier and smarter to integrate a Roku. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 31 minutes ago, therockhr said: Why are you 2 doing this? If I'm missing something and advising people poorly I want to know. He said it's a better viewing experience. How? If you can't describe how it's better, then it's preference. WHich is ok, but just say I prefer an Apple TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 37 minutes ago, therockhr said: Why are you 2 doing this? I'm nothing more or less than honestly wondering what he means by 'better viewing experience'. Is it the interface, is it other apps available, is he experiencing better quality video or audio? Are the apps working better or otherwise different in a significant way on one vs the other? As per above - if I'm missing a piece of information, then I'd love to know. Coming back with the BMW reference is silly as it doesn't explain WHY it's 'better'. EverAction 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EverAction Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 48 minutes ago, therockhr said: Why are you 2 doing this? Dealers are fed up with having to eat costs and change implementations across the life of the AppleTV. What you are seeing is the frustrations/scorn . They are laying it on thick but I do not blame them whatsoever. As much as the end-users are annoyed at this situation, dealers are pissed off. The good ones are not making a dime off of this fiasco, and I would even say that they are losing money due to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therockhr Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, msgreenf said: If I'm missing something and advising people poorly I want to know. He said it's a better viewing experience. How? If you can't describe how it's better, then it's preference. WHich is ok, but just say I prefer an Apple TV. 1 hour ago, Cyknight said: I'm nothing more or less than honestly wondering what he means by 'better viewing experience'. Is it the interface, is it other apps available, is he experiencing better quality video or audio? Are the apps working better or otherwise different in a significant way on one vs the other? As per above - if I'm missing a piece of information, then I'd love to know. Coming back with the BMW reference is silly as it doesn't explain WHY it's 'better'. You all knew he meant he just preferred the Apple TV interface (as lots of others do). Just stop it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EverAction Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, therockhr said: You all knew he meant he just preferred the Apple TV interface (as lots of others do). Just stop it. 22 hours ago, Amr said: Still ATV is a beautiful interface and much better viewing experience, integration is limited for now but let’s wait and see they are always late in entrance but catching up in 10-15 years Yes we knew he meant he refers the AppleTV interface. He said it. We're curious about the "much better viewing experience" part. msgreenf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Did I stepped on some one toes? Anyways, for sure slicker interface, better navigation with apps, over all polished experience, etc. Don’t you still have customers that prefers Apple to Roku? Am not talking about integration now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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