BrettB0727 Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 HouseLogix,Transparent pricing would be helpful!+1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c44me Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 We did some testing and unfortunately the Control4/Nest Driver does not work with 1.7.x or 1.8.x.As of this time' date=' we will not be releasing Nest drivers for Control4 legacy software version. We find there is a demand, we will certainly revisit. Thanks for asking![/quote']That's really too bad! The idea of a C4 driver "coming VERY soon" for Nest is actually what sealed my purchase. Regarding demand, it does make me wonder what percentage of C4's user base is "legacy"?+1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouseLogix Posted May 1, 2012 Author Share Posted May 1, 2012 Our company policy is that we will not be releasing retail pricing guidance for our dealers. Our goal is to provide useful Control4 drivers to the dealers that design, install, and support Control4 systems. Only these dealers understand their local market and clientele thus proving to be the best organization to establish retail pricing. If anyone has any questions, please don’t hesitate to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chesterwilson Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Our company policy is that we will not be releasing retail pricing guidance for our dealers. Our goal is to provide useful Control4 drivers to the dealers that design, install, and support Control4 systems. Only these dealers understand their local market and clientele thus proving to be the best organization to establish retail pricing. If anyone has any questions, please don’t hesitate to ask.That's too bad. No offense, but I read that as a way to gouge consumers. JMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouseLogix Posted May 1, 2012 Author Share Posted May 1, 2012 Our company policy is that we will not be releasing retail pricing guidance for our dealers. Our goal is to provide useful Control4 drivers to the dealers that design' date=' install, and support Control4 systems. Only these dealers understand their local market and clientele thus proving to be the best organization to establish retail pricing. If anyone has any questions, please don’t hesitate to ask.[/quote']That's too bad. No offense, but I read that as a way to gouge consumers. JMHO.chesterwilson, No offense taken. There is more than enough room here for differing viewpoints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chesterwilson Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 ^ Fair enough, good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamonddesign Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 If anyone is interested in pricing for a single or site, shoot me an email. I think I'm going to install a few in my home and see how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFUG Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 ^That's a good post James. With all that surrounds this new product, for you to offer to plow through the details is nice. I like the C4 stat but being a tech whore, I'd want to try this is well, just try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamonddesign Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 It just looks so damn cool. If I switch my theater one I'll have a nice rare black C4 stat to sell (spray painted with masking and care) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 I do have to admit that the Nest thermostat does LOOK cool. Honestly though, with the "logic" that is built in, I'd be a bit nervous about it "learning" things and making changes I don't want it to make.I just all C4 stats...I'll stick with them for a while (unless they don't work as planned). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFUG Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Honestly, the only thing I don't find workable on the C4 stats is the deadband. 0.5 degF can play havoc on programming as well. Either allow 0.5 res in Composer or don't. When you're counting pennies, that makes a difference in runtime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Honestly, the only thing I don't find workable on the C4 stats is the deadband. 0.5 degF can play havoc on programming as well. Either allow 0.5 res in Composer or don't. When you're counting pennies, that makes a difference in runtime.Can you elaborate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFUG Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 I find that that the "control" deadband is +/- 1 degF. this allows the system to exceed your setpoint by one degree. That's big money on a huge zone. I don't like that. I want 0.5 deg resolution out of that stat and my programming, just like I had with my crappy brand X beforehand. I don't mind the system short-cycling because it won't- I have a tight house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 I find that that the "control" deadband is +/- 1 degF. this allows the system to exceed your setpoint by one degree. That's big money on a huge zone. I don't like that. I want 0.5 deg resolution out of that stat and my programming, just like I had with my crappy brand X beforehand. I don't mind the system short-cycling because it won't- I have a tight house.I see what you're saying. So, if you have it set to cool at 72, it will cool the house down to 71 before it shuts off, instead of cooling to 72? You want it to cool to 71.5, not 71. Am I following you right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFUG Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Well, actually, I live on the ocean so no need for A/C. Heating is where I'm seeing a little more overshoot than I hoped for. Even with a deadband of 0 degF (according to Composer) this is not achievable. I am using outboard programming and CA relays to talk back to the stat. It is more critical that I can discern between 0.5 and 1 degF since my programming is not perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFUG Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Also, the shear nature of both of those Zigbee devices does not play well with what I am trying to do. Check-in is a little too infrequent for fine control of climate. I guess I'm splitting hairs here but having full-latitude control would help me to overcome some of my ignorance.I value the radio in the Control4 stat more than I do the glitz of the Nest. Bottom-line here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjeff Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 I installed one of them tonight, and I have to say Nice job HouseLogix. Everything went so smooth.. I have to say smoother than the C4 Thermostats in a lot of cases. No messing with under and overshoots etc.. The customer is very impressed with it and they look damn cool. We are playing with some programming and will see how the learning feature of it reacts. But hell of a nice job..Bryan Jefferson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFUG Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 ^That's what I'm talking about here. The PID and/or thermistor in the C4 device needs to be reworked. So I've gotten around that with a rudimentary set of logic and an external probe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFUG Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 My guess is the time constant on the thermistor is for shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chesterwilson Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 http://slickdeals.net/f/4358448-Nest-Thermostat-now-at-Lowe-s?Now available at Lowe's. Combine with the 10% mover coupon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanmark Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Wow... that's kind of a big deal. Here's another article: http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/blog/2012/05/nest-into-mainstream-retailer-lowes.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chesterwilson Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Just a matter of time before the price drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoskiguy Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Chester, while I agree with you in the longer term, keep in mind the Nest people originated from Apple, so I wouldn't hold my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanmark Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Nest will now be sold at Apple Stores? http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57441826-37/nest-thermostat-coming-to-apple-retail-stores-soon-report-says/Other than the company founders being ex-Apple execs the product has nothing to do with Apple - interesting they would carry it in their stores. Maybe there's more to come? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdepaola Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Apple buying Nest is what's next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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