Larry Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Re WiFi, I wish I could do better re channel assignments. Is there an easy way to determine the channel the EA3 is using? It picks an low-use 2.4 GHz channel for zigbee just once, at init time, correct? I should be able to see it in Composer HE, but where? I can't stop Xfinity from using 2.4 GHz for WiFi. Well maybe I can, have to look at Xfinity settings, I think I saw some web chatter about turning this off. Even though the main house WAP uses 5 GHz, some other things around the house use 2.4 GHz so I would like to think hard about channels. Any advice? Besides "don't use the microwave", since my wife and I are both crummy cooks we depend on that to make something quick after a disaster in the new kitchen which had appliances installed that are beyond our skill level! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowitall Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I guess I should have said, you can't distribute video affordably. I'd put aprocessor on wifi before run data thru a balun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic30101 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Click on system design>very top of the project tree on the left (Maybe customer name?)>Zigbee configuration in the center section> Edit zigbee configuration in blue and that will show the channel used. For wifi, try using channels 1-6 for 2.4Ghz leaving 11 free for zigbee which correlates to zigbee channels 20-25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Put zigbee on 25. that is the only way to avoid WiFi interference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic30101 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I think he is in a town-home so might want to do a wifi channel scan even just with his phone to do a site survey due to noise from neighbors homes that arent in the current equation just to be thorough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, sonic30101 said: I think he is in a town-home so might want to do a wifi channel scan even just with his phone to do a site survey due to noise from neighbors homes that arent in the current equation just to be thorough Channel 25 on Zigbee is outside the WiFi 2.4Ghz no matter what... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Great info, thanks all so much for the help. And the HE tips. Channel 25, got it! Indeed, it's an attached town home, and very near the clubhouse, so the scan shows a mind-boggling array of WiFi networks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Channel 25 is the best option where there's any WiFi. That is what Control4 sets devices to when we go to CEDIA, where there are 200+ WiFi access points available in range of the Control4 booth. And we can still demo ZigBee. Any other channel, the ZigBee gets swamped by the WiFi. It's a worst-case scenario (at least, since Control4 stopped showing at CES, where there were even *more* WiFi APs...) RyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 4 hours ago, knowitall said: I'd put aprocessor on wifi before run data thru a balun To each his own. I've stressed tested Leaf/Control4 on this to some pretty extreme circumstances/setup in my own place just to see how far I could push it. And it was flawless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowitall Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 3 hours ago, Cyknight said: To each his own. I've stressed tested Leaf/Control4 on this to some pretty extreme circumstances/setup in my own place just to see how far I could push it. And it was flawless. Good to know. Those leaf baluns run so hot tho they burn themselves up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Matthews Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Never had issues with the courtesy LAN ports of HDBaseT. JustAddPower and crestron RXs also run super hot. But only if they are PoE/PoC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 1 hour ago, knowitall said: Good to know. Those leaf baluns run so hot tho they burn themselves up They run very hot - true, which is noted on the device (or a sticker). That said, I've never had one actually burn out. Being as small of a form factor as they are, it's not really that surprising that they run hot I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 As I have a moment - here's some of the setups I did to stress test. Note that I do NOT recommend you actually implement this! -Running a controller, a Roku and a game console over one (switch behind the balun) - set Roku to stream, starter a download on game console, set controller to stream audio --unable to notice a drop in download speed over normal all full GB direct connections -Run NAS off of one, two media players over another --Nothing noticed after watching 10 full movies that way. -Run my desktop computer over one, NAS over another. --No decrease in upload speed to NAS from desktop, as in NAS write is the bottleneck in that connection. Download speed slightly lower - not surprising as that normally sits over 100Mb/s and rating is 100Mb/s - actual stable around 90. -Feed EA5 port as the main in to the switch - then run the above. --Much to my surprise - no different. -Feed Main system from the HDMI switch, ie main controller, plus the first two setups above, plus all three APs. Then lived with that for over a month. --Nothing to report - it all worked perfectly fine. Again - I'm not recommending you do the above at all, even if - much to my own surprise - I really couldn't notice a difference (and believe me I was looking for one, something, anything by the end of it). This was intended as an extreme case test only and yes I moved it all back to normal again after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowitall Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Impressive. Throw a wap behind one and see what happens! also my bad I thought leaf was only 10/100 on the Ethernet Again, maybe just me but have replaced multiple leaf baluns in different projects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
am350z Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 On 1/29/2017 at 2:11 PM, Maverick712 said: Katy, Texas Ah, there is the problem. Katy is a suburb of Houston. I got numerous quotes from the pinnacle and gold installers in Houston and was not impressed with any. OP, good luck!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therockhr Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 This probably needs its own thread but be careful with Samsung TVs and hdbase-t baluns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Matthews Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Wow, there are going to be some really pissed off people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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