JArtman99 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I have a switch for the garage light that has worked for years. Now, the switch shows on and off in Control4, but the light bulbs will not turn off at all. Any ideas? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesc4 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Try rebooting the switch: 9-4-9 press 9 taps on top press 4 taps on buttom press 9 taps on top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JArtman99 Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 Thanks James for your reply, went through the sequence, no luck. Light is still on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesc4 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I would try next to turn off and on the circuit breaker leave off for 1 minute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brownbatsbreath Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 What kind of switch or dimmer is it? What does it look like? What do the led lights on the switch do when it’s pressed? Any recent changes to the system? Wiring? Fixtures? Light bulbs? What kind of lights are you controlling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JArtman99 Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 Breaker has been reset, no luck. It’s the old style switch. Not sure of model number, but pic attached. LED Blue light goes up when press on , goes down when press off. Like normal. See pic. No recent changes. Tried multiple types of bulbs, no luck. Switch has been in probably 7-8 years. Many other switches/dimmers in the house with no other issues. Pic of light fixture attached. Normal garage light fixture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brownbatsbreath Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 That’s a dimmer. It could be toast. I would try it using all incandescent bulbs in the fixtures. Making sure no led or compact fluorescent bulbs are installed on that dimmer. Also, if you grab the little tab where the top led is, it slides up. It’s an air gap switch. It’ll kill the lights, I’d do that when changing bulbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I had this same thing happen a couple of months ago. I couldn’t figure out how to get the cover off of a track light and there was a short for a second. The dimmer no longer worked despite the switches/LEDs changing. Did you have any king of a short or surge or anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JArtman99 Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 Yeah I have all incandescent bulbs in now. Thanks for the tab trick, 8 years and never knew that. No surge that I know of. All other switches/dimmers are working. Looking more like a bad dimmer. You guys are great trying to help me out. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prabeau Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Sort of related. My installer had brought what he thought was a switch for garage fluorescents but had a dimmer. He programmed it to work as (on/off) and have been wondering what issue awaits me. This post reminded me ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 2 hours ago, prabeau said: Sort of related. My installer had brought what he thought was a switch for garage fluorescents but had a dimmer. He programmed it to work as (on/off) and have been wondering what issue awaits me. This post reminded me ! If it works now, there should be no real issue awaiting you unless you change the bulb to something non-dimmable that also does not work with the hack to make a dimmer behave as a switch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prabeau Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Thats just it its a set of 2 (5 bunch) mini fluorescent that don't dim of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I have a bunch of flourescents on dimmers now. Some of them were just slopping installations by my original dealer. Others are instances where CFL bulbs were put in subsequent to the dimmer install. But I am getting rid of all CFLs as I don't see much point in using them when LEDs are now reasonably priced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 10 hours ago, prabeau said: Thats just it its a set of 2 (5 bunch) mini fluorescent that don't dim of course If they work now, the 'dimmer' is unlikely to stop working for these bulbs... Be careful when you replace them as that is when issues may arise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brownbatsbreath Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Eh, I’m not sure I agree exactly. Having a non-dimmable ballast on a dimmmer, even just going 0%-100% could definitely speed wear on the dimmer. Or likely the ballasts themselves. Especially an older dimmer, as I’m not sure how well they handle the inrush currents. That said, depending on use and the quality of ballasts, could work fine for years. I just wouldn’t be so keen to shrug it off with the price of a dimmer being what it is. msgreenf and South Africa C4 user 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Fair point although I had 2 installed and setup like this in my first house (must be more than 10 years back) and they are still working (or, at least, were 2 months ago). I also have 2 or 3 setup like this in my current house but they are only 4 years old. Brownbatsbreath 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prabeau Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Thanks for info. Seeing how its not the only lighting in garage I will leave as is. It has been ok for 5 years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shock Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 My Control4 turns on outside lights automatically, but won’t turn it off in the Morning. Any help ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Sounds like the program isn't complete for off at sunrise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 3 hours ago, msgreenf said: Sounds like the program isn't complete for off at sunrise? Or a mix-up in am/pm if using a 'set' time. Or accidentally setting it to turn on 'again' instead of off. Or tracking issues, especially if using Lighting Scenes and non-C4 lighting. Or the original off schedule was set to non-repeating, or had an end-date. Maybe post a snip/screenshot of the programming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff W Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 On 1/6/2018 at 7:12 PM, JArtman99 said: I have a switch for the garage light that has worked for years. Now, the switch shows on and off in Control4, but the light bulbs will not turn off at all. Any ideas? Thanks! Dimmers and switches can sometimes 'bleed' a small amount of electricity through the dimmer/switch. With incandescent bulbs it wasn't enough to turn on the loads but sometimes it's enough to power a LED bulb. Might be one thing to look into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Jeff W said: Dimmers and switches can sometimes 'bleed' a small amount of electricity through the dimmer/switch. With incandescent bulbs it wasn't enough to turn on the loads but sometimes it's enough to power a LED bulb. Might be one thing to look into. Ahhh what wisdom 2 years after the quoted post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff W Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Cyknight said: Ahhh what wisdom 2 years after the quoted post Lol... My bad... I just switched from the dealer forums here. Saw the last couple of posts in the thread and wanted to help out. I didn't realize the post was that old. . I'm used to the dealer forums that were quite active. I'll make sure to read the date on the first post next time hahaha. Just want to help out the community . PS, nice to see a friendly face from the other forums here! RyanE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 LOL I'm everywhere .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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