cjh Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 c4 Gurus - Need some assistance getting a c4 switch and keypad working in a 3-way scenario to power a half-hot outlet. I think for the purpose of this discussion (unless I am wrong) we can ignore the outlet is half-hot. The diagram below shows how I installed the switch and keypad. The switch is working fine - it is controllable from c4 and the outlet works as expected. The problem is with the keypad. It doesn't seem to power up and it doesn't control the outlet as expected. I'm sure I have something wrong in the wiring. What's wrong? Could you offer me pointers please? Second question - is there any specific composer pro programming required for the keypad? THANKS in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcovach Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 No programming is needed and the C4-KA will not show in the project. Hard to say exactly what you did wrong but the C4-KA should not be connected to a load wire. Wall box 1 (C4 switch) needs to be downgraded to a 2 way circuit with the light only. You will end up with a dead wire across Wall box 1 and Wall box 2 that was formerly used as the travellor. You connect the C4 switch and aux keypad (yellow) dolphin wires together using that wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjh Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 Thanks for the speedy reply. Is this updated diagram what you are saying? Does that imply the red off the c4 switch just gets capped and unused? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 What is a half hot outlet? It's hot or notSent from my BBF100-2 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjh Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 The top half is switched (controllable by the switch) while the bottom outlet is always hot. Thus - half, hot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Lowe Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 48 minutes ago, cjh said: Thanks for the speedy reply. Is this updated diagram what you are saying? Does that imply the red off the c4 switch just gets capped and unused? couple issues here. You are missing a wire on the switch. There should be a yellow lead. that gets connected to the yellow lead on the KA. The red is the switch leg and that would get connected to the hot on the half outlet. The other half of the outlet would share the non switched hot. So if there is only 3 wires going to the outlet you will only be able to make it full switching and not half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjh Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 @Matt Lowe RE: couple issues here. You are missing a wire on the switch. There should be a yellow lead. Interesting. Maybe this is an older ver of the switch? Here's the diagram from the install instructions. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatheed Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, cjh said: @Matt Lowe RE: couple issues here. You are missing a wire on the switch. There should be a yellow lead. Interesting. Maybe this is an older ver of the switch? Here's the diagram from the install instructions. Thoughts? that diagram isn't for the aux keypad. follow the correct diagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 You have an older version switch/dimmer, those are not compatible with the newer aux switches (and if you had it powered with the original diagram, you likely killed the aux) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic30101 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 @Cyknight mentioned the newer aux doesnt work with the previous gen lighting. Also looks like the switch needs to be in the other wallbox since the redtwice is the switch leg that goes out to the terminal of the receptacle for switched control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjh Posted May 1, 2019 Author Share Posted May 1, 2019 The moral of the story here is connect gen1 switches to gen1 aux keypads! Thanks all for the insights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 The moral of the story here is connect gen1 switches to gen1 aux keypads! Thanks all for the insights.There are no gen 1 aux keypads. There are 2, 3 and 6 buttons Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanchow Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Or just get one of these and be done with it. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N3CK3MM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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