A and B speakers for different Rooms

[brucecampbell]

It's not perfect, but it works... mostly.

I have two rooms which use the same receiver, I just switch between A or B or A+B when listening to music.

One problem is they are treated as independent sources,
On the odd occasion where I have both rooms playing music at the same time, if I turn off one room, the other room thinks it is still on, but the receiver is off.

Is there a solution here?

 

[Cyknight]

Well yes, stop using a/b and get a receiver with 2 zone capability. Or just two amps...

 

[brucecampbell]

42 minutes ago, Cyknight said:

Well yes, stop using a/b and get a receiver with 2 zone capability. Or just two amps...

 

I knew someone was going to say that...
One day I'll get more equipment, but for now the A/B works 'ok' so was hoping there was some form of control where C4 knows the amp is in use and does not turn it off....
I suppose its not a usual way of doing things, so there is probably no need for C4 to have a solution.

 

 

[zaphod]

Look around for people with spare amps especially if you aren't using the video aspect of the amps, which it sounds like you aren't.  I have some unused AVRs because the freaking things became obsolete so quickly due to changing video standards from S-Video, to Component, to various iterations of HDMI.

[Amr]

On 1/31/2023 at 11:59 PM, brucecampbell said:

It's not perfect, but it works... mostly.

I have two rooms which use the same receiver, I just switch between A or B or A+B when listening to music.

One problem is they are treated as independent sources,
On the odd occasion where I have both rooms playing music at the same time, if I turn off one room, the other room thinks it is still on, but the receiver is off.

Is there a solution here?

 

The cost of automating this will probably equal the price of a used AVR that u can source for this job, but check these:

https://flow.audio/ Around $180 on Amazon, free DriverCentral C4 driver!

[brucecampbell]

2 hours ago, Amr said:

The cost of automating this will probably equal the price of a used AVR that u can source for this job, but check these:

https://flow.audio/ Around $180 on Amazon, free DriverCentral C4 driver!

Thanks,

I'm happy going down the used AVR option.  I'll get around to it one day.
I have more pressing matters of a new controller and IO right now, given one of my HC800 packed in during our recent storm and power outages.

I was interested to see if there was a quick and easy method already available in C4.

 

 

[Amr]

4 hours ago, brucecampbell said:

Thanks,

I'm happy going down the used AVR option.  I'll get around to it one day.
I have more pressing matters of a new controller and IO right now, given one of my HC800 packed in during our recent storm and power outages.

I was interested to see if there was a quick and easy method already available in C4.

 

 

Yeah, an EA is definitely a push forward

[therockhr]

11 hours ago, brucecampbell said:

Thanks,

I'm happy going down the used AVR option.  I'll get around to it one day.
I have more pressing matters of a new controller and IO right now, given one of my HC800 packed in during our recent storm and power outages.

I was interested to see if there was a quick and easy method already available in C4.

 

 

This question gets asked time to time on here and the real true answer is that C4 just doesnt work as intended with the Zone 2 capability of an AVR. People have tried hacks and such but it isnt the same. Sorry.

[lippavisual]

25 minutes ago, therockhr said:

This question gets asked time to time on here and the real true answer is that C4 just doesnt work as intended with the Zone 2 capability of an AVR. People have tried hacks and such but it isnt the same. Sorry.

Back when you could use IR drivers for receivers, zone 2 wasn’t really an issue if you used another copy of the driver and only made the connections to zone 2 IO’s. 

[Amr]

Yes, was a hassle and still, actually the best thing to do is to go the TriadOne Route, much cleaner and provide the best ever hassle-free C4 experience!

[Amr]

13 hours ago, brucecampbell said:

Thanks,

I'm happy going down the used AVR option.  I'll get around to it one day.
I have more pressing matters of a new controller and IO right now, given one of my HC800 packed in during our recent storm and power outages.

I was interested to see if there was a quick and easy method already available in C4.

When u r done with your Controller upgrade I think you should take a look @ TriadOne, u can source a used one less than $350 and it will provide u with a seamless zone addition to your project.

[brucecampbell]

8 hours ago, lippavisual said:

Back when you could use IR drivers for receivers, zone 2 wasn’t really an issue if you used another copy of the driver and only made the connections to zone 2 IO’s. 

This is how my home is set up.
All three receivers are IR driven
Only one, the Harmon Kardon is 2 zone, zone 1 is the lounge AV, zone 2 is our patio audio. It still takes up two audio outputs from C4 though, as to use zone 2 independently, you need to have a separate analogue audio in.
The zone two driver was a clone, but was essentially stripped right back and re-coded to only use power on/off, volume up/down/mute and source = AUX.

I'm guessing that your comment is referring to receivers now integrating via IP??

I haven't really look at new receivers in the last five years - are they moving away from IR?