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  1. Do you have independent volume still? If not, then either the rooms are physically wired together, or buried programming to mimic. I would delete the two rooms and start fresh. That'll clear any wonky programming.
  2. I shall believe that Gen 1/2 will end up bridged into x4. I can see why Control4 has chosen to EOL them due to technical limitations and age. But it's in Control4's best interest to assist with a bridge approach through the third party developers. They'll alleviate themselves of the support, and those owners wishing to have missing features, can upgrade. Those who do not, can bridge, and accept the limitations and any reliability that may ensue. Feels like the parts, EA, are there to make it happen. Any could even lighten the environmental impact of controller upgrades. This isn't a profit grab for Control4 to push out more product. Owners who do choose to upgrade have other third party products to pick from, and which would offer them more freedoms from a one vendor eco system, ...once bitten.
  3. My understanding as a dealer.... The core units are designed around an off the shelf, standardized size/feature set, socketed cpu chip. So they don't need to replace the design because of chip availability like what happened during Covid. So I wouldn't expect to see Core model change for quite some time, a v2 maybe for a chip change, but the 'housing' should be solid for some time to come. And as the 'housing' has changed much other than a port here or there for several generations, should be pretty set.
  4. Aren't Gen 1 and Gen 2 the same physically once Gen 1 is converted to Zigbee? Isn't it just what protocol they shipped with, or was there an actual chip or something changed for Gen 2 Zigbee? or something in the way they reset or something? (Started in Gen 2 days)
  5. Updated Information from Control4 Dealer Forum: OS3 has an update planned for soon, then limited past that, x4 will be focus for new stuff Planning on a new Xperience (x) each year - wanting to make it easier for customers to know how up to date they are, or out of date as the case may be. Homekit sounding very much as C4 exposed into Homekit, (but not Homekit devices into C4). Allowing Apple Ecosystem to control a Control4 home for appletv, carplay siri, (Siri on Halo), watch, shortcuts, etc. Composer stays, but some integrations will be through OVRC (as Luma bridge is done)
  6. So the first Kasa you buy for $10 plus the driver is STILL $10 less than 1 Control4 unit. The second, third, fourth.... are $10 EACH! That's some good math. Pick one of the main three (Kasa, Govee, Shelly), and support their development! Without a third party store, and the incentive of money attached, the sandbox of third party drivers would be crazy small. Without a third party store, and programmers learning on paid, the number of vendors paying one of them to develop free drivers, would be crazy small. And, without 3rd party programmers to write drivers for vendors to give away, then many of them wouldn't pursue a driver at all. Edit Why doesn't Control4 write them? their not going to cannibalize their own product sales, oh, and Support! Why doesn't Kasa? We're making a $1 a plug, no free sauces.
  7. Could have gone with Connect 4, as you need the connect service and it's the 4th OS. Oh, wait, never mind.
  8. As Andrew mentioned, support. It's one thing to release a free driver, even code for others to mod, kudos. Hobbiest love that stuff, and take pride and ego in making it work for themselves, look what I did. It's another to support it to thousands of installers, many of which get confused at making connections in Composer.
  9. So here's an opportunity for a developer to write a driver to bridge two projects in a single house, one running just CA/EA with Gen 2 lighting, and the other the full system. If you've got a dozen then upgrade, so be it, if you've got 50 devices, lets bridge. (Surely Control4 could help said developer with any protocol/security issues, and still be hey, it's not supported it's not our driver) And frankly, if it came down to just level, keypads got to go, no double/tripple tap etc, I think many would be willing.
  10. "Customers that wish to update past X4.0 will have to remove and/or replace these devices:"
  11. Gen 1 & 2 (2005 to 2013, pre 2.53)
  12. Lighting - reminder they’re working on zigbee 3. So maybe that gen 1&2 can’t crossover somehow.
  13. Marketing has got their work cut out for them. They need to keep the happy happy, and the was happy not pissed. On the plus, they'll be used hardware becoming available for the OS2 group to go to OS3 for a reasonable cost. Swap in some EA and T3 and bring older projects to OS3 to maintain their abilities, not the latest features, but better than the alternatives.
  14. Not dead yet. If you don't want the customization of x4, or home kit, or whatever, than grandfathered 4sight will continue. How long?, don't know.
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