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c'mon now.

These analogies are only on point if the Sony and Mercedes are locked at 55 MPH, have manual roll-down windows, and otherwise lack features that the "lesser" brands offer standard. The other explanations on this thread, regarding customers who just want their core functions to work, want a support person to manage it, and don't care if it's the most feature-rich, or are very focused on AV distribution, are a lot more persuasive.

Guy with the most posts in the thread has no skin in the game. You don't care at all that your peers (not me) have told you you're wrong. Got it.

Even if they could get Chamberlain to cooperate, Chamberlain has been a pretty crappy partner to the HA community as a whole, so why bother? IMO.

Thanks. I thought unifi *was* supporting 802.11v, but I wasn't aware that a lot of clients pay attention to it. I'll take a look.

Uh, not only does "not truly a controller-based Wi-Fi" system make no sense wrt UniFi, but roaming and handoff in an 802.11 session doesn't involve or require a controller. It's between the client and the APs. But go on about I'm the one who doesn't know what they're talking about. And i'm sure you'll post your data showing the comparative handoff quality.

Justifies a 10x price differential, huh. I bet you sell your customers a lot of these too. https://www.transparentcable.com/products/xl-speaker-cable?gclid=Cj0KCQjwjIKYBhC6ARIsAGEds-JaPEfFDtlYwdLdIzBUPox7p7v0dtia6anZheh1YF1uj7M5meoLNfEaAvGyEALw_wcB The performance is that good......

Your fast reaction tells me there’s far more truth to it than you wish to admit

Yes, better if everyone just keeps overpaying you… I bet you sold a lot of Monster cable back in the day. “You get what you pay for.”

The other old adages about suckers being born every minute, and fools and their money being soon parted, seem to have equal applicability here. I’m guessing the ruckus margin is really good?

You could also get UniFi and pay like 1/5th (1/10th?) of the Ruckus cost.

LOL wrong.

Down about a buck. Yesterday's earnings release: https://investors.snapone.com/news-releases/news-release-details/snap-one-reports-fiscal-second-quarter-2022-results sales were up. The only thing that looked truly bad to me was the big negative free cash flow and diminishing cash on hand.

As a farewell to me regarding how little I matter to you, this is…. *chef’s kiss*. anyways, good luck to the OP on their new house whatever they decide. Lots of choices out there, and definitely worth exploring the alternatives.

That’s not accurate, but it’s not actually inconsistent or ironic to strongly dislike something and spend energy on stating that you strongly dislike it. I’m guessing you thought a traffic jam when you’re already late is ironic, too. How about 10000 spoons?

That's fine. It's no different than the prior state of affairs.

I hear you. one of mine is an STR and i don't expose the interfaces to them. they just see that the patio lights come on at sunset, off at midnight, etc. I do give them a QR code they can use to access a home assistant page from the browser that is just a list of fun things to do in town.

Many have. And tell me you don't understand mobile app development without saying you don't understand mobile app development. Oh, you just did!

MQTT is fun! All my garages are reporting via MQTT.

I’m guessing you don’t live in the Bay Area of California? The people with that money for a house are all tech people, or tech adjacent, and if you say your house is on a home automation platform, they are gonna come look at it. 7 of 8 bidders either inspected the server closet themselves, or sent an IT person to do so.

I’m guessing you have not had the experience of selling a home at a 5m plus price point. You hear a lot of things from the buyer. That was indeed one of them. There was more, but I was trying to make a point.

Like someone else said, different strokes I guess. I made C4 in Residence 1 someone else's problem at the start of the year. (Note: you will not recoup your investment*, so only do it if it's something you really want. The buyers were mid-level FAANG, accustomed to premium homes, and their reaction was basically WTF is this sh$@, why can't it control an Apple TV over IP?**, and why is this DS2 thing so awful?) Residence 2, 3, 4, and shortly 5, are all Home Assistant, all highly "automated" as you say, and I "shudder" at how limited C4 was, when I see the things they are doing, at a lower cost, that couldn't be done in C4. If I have any advice that isn't partisan, it'd be: pay someone to put the proper infrastructure in the walls - not tied to a platform like, for instance, C4 panelized. Then you can pick what you like for the top of the stack, and swap it, too, if you don't like what it's doing. *by which i mean, your C4 will not be separately valued as a plus which increases buyer's bid. it's neutral or (guessing) possibly negative, if the system is an old one. **The idea that failure to integrate smoothly with Apple TV might somehow be Apple's fault, not C4's and just buy a Shield anyways, is the first thing to evaporate when you step out of the bubble.

For when you have teenagers: "at home" and "left home" detection is pretty easy - the geolocation tracker in the app plus wifi connection (you can attach multiple trackers to a defined person) is good. You can also get reasonably good actionable events for entering or leaving zones like "school" or "work" but there is some lag, because the tracker is not constantly updating - around 3-5 minutes.

It is useful for people who have friends and loved ones. I will leave you to imagine how that might be. I'm not looking for validation from Internet strangers. I posted because the other poster seemed genuinely interested. I will come back and see how you're feeling after the earnings call next week.

Thanks. I know what you mean, my wife is a big influence on acceptance. She had the opposite view of C4 - she paid more attention to the budget for Home 1 than I did, and from the beginning was asking why C4 didn't do anything she cared about, like integrate her google calendar, and give her presence info for family members and do things based on that information. "Too much for too little," she said; she didn't care at all for the boy toy stuff like home theater. She took to HA immediately for house 2 and 3, especially after i told her it only cost $100 for a crappy old thin client from HP, and my time.....Everybody has an audience they need to please. cheers.