Nehsmit Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Hi all,I was at my local garage door company today and saw that they had a lift master Internet access for garage doors. They had a gateway for $70 and then for another $40 a new controller that would let you use your smart phone or Internet to control the garage door. I was wondering if anybody had any integration of this with Control 4?Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashmoney Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Nope its a closed API... Alarm.com seems to have integrated, but through a partnership. I would think seeing Liftmaster in the largest garage door opener company in the U.S. that C4 would have partnered with them, but guess not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Yeah the partnership would be nice, but doing your own rail mount solution and integrating it into Control4 is fairly inexpensive and if the wires are there, you have the controller to support it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 FYI, I just found this out - The units that have Security Plus 2.0 (MyQ Technology) are Serial Encrypted. Which means the unit is no longer an open/close circuit; it's now a communicative technology that works kind of like a telephone. The Door-control no longer has an open & closed circuit. It's like a mini computer, communicating with the operator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas3622 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 See mine and others posts about this. The liftmaster 8550 does not have a dry contact closure but they have other models that do. You need a dry contact closure for the c4 relay to work. I (and others) have basically rigged a liftmaster remote to get triggered by the relay that then operates the garage door. I have a contact sensor on the garage door that tells me if it is open or closed. So my programming goes something like "if garage door sensor is open then send a pulse to close the door" and visa versa. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas3622 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Some people describe this as a hack job but I can tell you that the integration is great. When I go to sleep I hit a goodnight button and if the garage is open then it closes it. I didn't want to spend the money on a new garage door opener so this is working great for now.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nehsmit Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 Some people describe this as a hack job but I can tell you that the integration is great. When I go to sleep I hit a goodnight button and if the garage is open then it closes it. I didn't want to spend the money on a new garage door opener so this is working great for now.Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkCan you give me details on whats needed? Also some instructions if possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Just solder or otherwise attach a wire to where the button on a standard wall unit (well the special wall units) is connected to the printerboard. From there it works as any other garage door with a contact relay (which a button in essence is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duck_man Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Automating the garage door is as simple as 2 conductors to the wall button in most cases, as mentioned above. I have all 3 of my doors attached to control4 and with the security system's contacts to report the door's state it is easy to do simple things like a goodnight that closes the doors, a goodbye that opens the one i need to back out of, or polling the doors when I arm the alarm to close them first, then arm. Good fun. My wall mount buttons for the doors have 2 screw terminals and I just attached to them and through a control4 relay. A momentary contact toggles the doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFUG Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Older hack of a Liftmaster remote- still in use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFUG Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 CA Relay attached to a Liftmaster Elite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmonty2 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 So I ran a cat5 line to where my wall mount push buttons are, this is all that's needed? I have 2 8500 openers with sensors on them to tell me if they are open or closed. I do have the lift master app but would like to integrate into the C4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 To see the status of open/closed you will also need wiring to the actual door. If done properly, one CAT5 can be used to carry two contacts (open/closed status) and two relays (does the opening/closing). Each requires a simple two conductor cable. Being that CAT came has 4 pair, it works great for up to 2 doors. If you have more doors, you need more wire. Sent from my Droid MAXX via Tapatalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmonty2 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 So this should work. I have a sensor for my doors that do tell me when they are open and closed already. It is from Nyce, and I can see it in my C4 as a garage door too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdepaola Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Wiring into the main wall opener use to work but it doesn't with the new "Smart Controllers". Unless you open it up all the way and solder to the actual button vs using the screw terminals on the back. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I ran wires directly back to controller with my liftmaster.See post:http://www.c4forums.com/topic/13673-garage-door-relay/#entry116855 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaarrEagle Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 This is how I wired mine: http://www.c4forums.com/topic/12745-budget-wireless-garage-door-integration/#entry108601 I assume your Liftmaster could be wired in a similar manner as long as you have an extra remote (or hardwired depending on proximity to the opener). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdepaola Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I ran wires directly back to controller with my liftmaster.See post:http://www.c4forums.com/topic/13673-garage-door-relay/#entry116855This no longer works on new Liftmaster openers with Security 2.0Alarm.com partnered with Liftmaster and thus their system can control an opener. Would like to see C4 partner with them. A driver that works with MyQ would be great as it would provide control and it would know the door state without external sensors. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholas Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Does anyone know if the Liftmaster 3585s uses dry contacts? I am trying to confirm so that I can quote the Card Access solution but Liftmaster support couldn't tell me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StroTek LLC Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 you can always solder onto the wall "smart control panel" and simulate a button press But I have to ask, why not get the MyQ retrofit package for it.. and use the MyQ driver.. that way you know if the door is open or closed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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