Drake0508 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Anyone ever using this driver? The pool pump and temp seem to cross over fine but I find the water zones and lights are after not matching the actual state. Any tips or tricks? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwanerka Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 I have not yet but I am really curious on how it works, as I have a client just a week ago asking to integrate there pool with c4. Can you let us know how it went and how the integration went. User/customer experience, was it easier to add to c4.... you know, the usual things.Thank you in advance Sent from my SM-G986U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake0508 Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 It seemed to be quick as far as adding it to the system. The driver populated everything attached to my IntelliCenter. The issue is that some of the items seem to have two way feedback and some just never follow real time on/off. The pool temperature, heater and pump seem to update between both controllers. The water feature zones do not. Usually the C4 app is showing completely different status. I’m just wondering if there is something wrong on my end. I’d really like for it to work so I don’t have to go to multiple apps to control everything. And it will be helpful when constructing scenes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 It works fine for me, but I mostly use the Intellicenter app. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lippavisual Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Pretty sure the extra features, like lights, are not 2 way compatible. That's why states can be off, especially if using the native app and c4's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dw886 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I have it, and it seems to sync up states, however I do see some bizarre things here and there. For example, if I turn off a water feature (slide) from C4, sometimes the slide will go On / Off / On / Off / On / Off / On / Off (over and over for a minute or two) - this doesn't happen, but when it does, it makes you wonder what's happening. When this is happening, you can see the slider on the touchscreen going back and forth on it's own... I've also seen the same thing with the lights, where the lights will turn on, you'll change the color using C4 on the touchscreen, and the lights will turn off (when this happens I think that it's just the intellicenter adjusting the color, because it works by cycling the circuit x number of times to tell the lights what colors to use, and while doing this the lights remain off), however they will stay off indefinitely. I rarely turn things on via the IntelliCenter itself, we almost exclusively use a touchscreen that's near the patio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake0508 Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share Posted September 21, 2020 My experience is similar but I’d really like it to work so I can assign some keypads to each feature. 1. The pump status, temperature abs heater seen to always be correct. 2. If I turn on the deck keys from the C4 app, they will indeed turn on (as long as the deck keys are in the off position when I open the C4 app) but if I set my phone down and the app shuts off, the state will be changed back to off when I open the C4 app again. I’ve tried toggling back on and then off to get it to respond but it will not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Also found quite a few bugs with the driver. Including the above (sometimes) and if you have multiple panels (daughter panels) and a complex setup, it does not bring all of the lights and circuits through to C4. My dealer has an open ticket with C4 and a promise that they will get to working on the bugs he reported. By far the biggest miss is that you can not view and (more importantly) change the vacation setting from C4. I also use the Intellicenter App most of the time. Other, more significant shortfalls include limited pump control, no way of controlling colour of colour changing lights, no feedback of pump information (rpm, kWh, gpm etc.) Drake0508 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olichops Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I have this setup also and have experienced the same issues as others above. I wish there was the ability to access the Aux relays in C4 so it could be scheduled in C4 as part of the lighting control! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Olichops said: I have this setup also and have experienced the same issues as others above. I wish there was the ability to access the Aux relays in C4 so it could be scheduled in C4 as part of the lighting control! Make a Lighting Group on the Intellicenter. These seem to pull through fairly reliably to the C4 driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olichops Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Lighting group in the intellicenter, you mean the outdoor control box or the intellitouch LCD panel which I don’t have. I do have the ScreenLogic adapter which I set the relay to a light but that does not pull tru to the C4 adapter to the C4 Touchscreens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Olichops said: Lighting group in the intellicenter, you mean the outdoor control box or the intellitouch LCD panel which I don’t have. I do have the ScreenLogic adapter which I set the relay to a light but that does not pull tru to the C4 adapter to the C4 Touchscreens Screen Logic is not Intellicenter. ScreenLogic is IntelliTouch. A different Pentair control system. Confusing names - I know! The auxiliary relays work perfectly using the free IntelliTouch driver. Although they only work for one way control. I believe that the paid for IntelliTouch driver had numerous issues. You can ignore my comment on Lighting Groups as that relates to IntelliCenter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olichops Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Yep, I was looking for 2 way control so that Spa Controllers could activate lights on control 4 by unused aux ports of the Intellitouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake0508 Posted September 29, 2020 Author Share Posted September 29, 2020 I had planned on putting a few keypads up to control the basic water features but I think it would be more frustrating than convenient. As of now, the pump, heater and water temp are still always correct. I’m not sure how they can get a few things correct. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 On 9/28/2020 at 3:30 AM, Olichops said: I have this setup also and have experienced the same issues as others above. I wish there was the ability to access the Aux relays in C4 so it could be scheduled in C4 as part of the lighting control! The above can be done on Control4 using the native IntelliTouch driver. The below cannot. 17 hours ago, Olichops said: Yep, I was looking for 2 way control so that Spa Controllers could activate lights on control 4 by unused aux ports of the Intellitouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WisC4 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Any luck integrating Intelliconnect controller over wifi? Uses Pentair Home mobile app. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejn1 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 22 minutes ago, WisC4 said: Any luck integrating Intelliconnect controller over wifi? Uses Pentair Home mobile app. mine worked fine... I since have hardwired it but wifi worked also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WisC4 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 17 minutes ago, ejn1 said: mine worked fine... I since have hardwired it but wifi worked also. Which driver and version are you using with successful connect to intelliconnect? Will driver allow for integration simply using pentair home login credentials? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 2 hours ago, WisC4 said: Which driver and version are you using with successful connect to intelliconnect? Will driver allow for integration simply using pentair home login credentials? There are various drivers for IntelliTouch and IntelliCenter. However, I am not aware of any driver specifically for the IntelliConnect. These drivers communicate locally (either IP or RS232) with the Pentair system so don’t need the Pentair Home credentials. The Pentair communication protocol is fairly standard so it is possible that one of the existing Pentair drivers (IntelliTouch or IntelliCenter) may work with IntelliConnect. If I was to take a guess at which one is most likely to work, I would go for the bNet Solutions bPentair driver. But please note this is an IntelliTouch driver and there is no guarantee that it will work. AFAIK it was originally intended as a universal driver and if you reach out to the developer he may well help you get IntelliConnect integrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejn1 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 23 hours ago, WisC4 said: Which driver and version are you using with successful connect to intelliconnect? Will driver allow for integration simply using pentair home login credentials? I have an Intellicenter panel, so I use the Intellicenter driver... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WisC4 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 On 5/22/2024 at 10:42 PM, South Africa C4 user said: There are various drivers for IntelliTouch and IntelliCenter. However, I am not aware of any driver specifically for the IntelliConnect. These drivers communicate locally (either IP or RS232) with the Pentair system so don’t need the Pentair Home credentials. The Pentair communication protocol is fairly standard so it is possible that one of the existing Pentair drivers (IntelliTouch or IntelliCenter) may work with IntelliConnect. If I was to take a guess at which one is most likely to work, I would go for the bNet Solutions bPentair driver. But please note this is an IntelliTouch driver and there is no guarantee that it will work. AFAIK it was originally intended as a universal driver and if you reach out to the developer he may well help you get IntelliConnect integrated. I believe i'm looking for an IP driver that can connect to the Intelliconnect via wifi or a driver that can connect through the Pentair Home app credentials, similar to how my Carrier driver connects to my HVAC systems. I'm really just looking to see my heater temp in C4. Any idea if bPentair or another pentair driver can connect in this way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejn1 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 11 minutes ago, WisC4 said: I believe i'm looking for an IP driver that can connect to the Intelliconnect via wifi or a driver that can connect through the Pentair Home app credentials, similar to how my Carrier driver connects to my HVAC systems. I'm really just looking to see my heater temp in C4. Any idea if bPentair or another pentair driver can connect in this way? What Pentair panel do you have again? The drivers for C4 connect via an IP address which you will have in either case, wifi or ethernet. I have the Pentair home app but it has nothing to do with C4 which connects via IP to the panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WisC4 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 2 minutes ago, ejn1 said: What Pentair panel do you have again? The drivers for C4 connect via an IP address which you will have in either case, wifi or ethernet. I have the Pentair home app but it has nothing to do with C4 which connects via IP to the panel. I am using the Pentair Intellconnect panel : https://www.pentair.com/en-us/products/residential/pool-spa-equipment/pool-automation/intelliconnect.html It connects via wifi, so yes I do have an IP address for the panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 3 hours ago, WisC4 said: I believe i'm looking for an IP driver that can connect to the Intelliconnect via wifi or a driver that can connect through the Pentair Home app credentials, similar to how my Carrier driver connects to my HVAC systems. I'm really just looking to see my heater temp in C4. Any idea if bPentair or another pentair driver can connect in this way? You can try the Pentair IntelliCenter driver from the online database. This connects via IP but I don’t really think it will connect to to an IntelliConnect system. I still think the bPentair driver is more likely to work especially if you are only after the heater temp. But the bPentair driver requires an RS232 connection. You will need an RS232 to RS485 adapter to connect it to your IntelliConnect panel and even then, as I stated above, I am not 100% sure it will work as bPentair is designed for IntelliTouch not IntelliConnect. The fact that you use the Pentair Home app is irrelevant to all of the Control4 drivers currently available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejn1 Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 8 hours ago, WisC4 said: I am using the Pentair Intellconnect panel : https://www.pentair.com/en-us/products/residential/pool-spa-equipment/pool-automation/intelliconnect.html It connects via wifi, so yes I do have an IP address for the panel. ah ok, I was not familar with that product in the link. Like already mentioned, I think the Intellicenter driver via IP should be your best chance with C4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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