Cyknight Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 8 hours ago, cdepaola said: no where near the buying or service experience THAT has nothing to do with the car itself though. Anyway, this is getting waaay of topic. 8 hours ago, cdepaola said: I own several of the European cars, a ford and a jeep And I've owned all of those myself, and while different, I wouldn't class them 'higher' or 'lower' But I'll stop there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rf9000 Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share Posted February 25, 2021 11 hours ago, ejn1 said: As we chat, Ubiquiti just released a Wifi 6 "Pro" version for $149 in Early Access (Beta).... Description / Specs below. Where is this for sale at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rf9000 Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share Posted February 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, rf9000 said: Where is this for sale at? Nevermind, looks like they are sold out. So, the consensus that I'm gathering here is that Ruckus is the best in anyone's mind. Do you think the best solution would be to get Ruckus 610 or 710 models and have them flashed to the unleashed software? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanDad Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, rf9000 said: Do you think the best solution would be to get Ruckus 610 or 710 models and have them flashed to the unleashed software? That's what I do. It takes 10 minutes, no issues. Configuration after that is straightforward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lippavisual Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 18 minutes ago, OceanDad said: That's what I do. It takes 10 minutes, no issues. Configuration after that is straightforward. And also should be set and forget. You’ll never have to touch the WiFi system again, unless upgrading firmware or adding/changing to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rf9000 Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, lippavisual said: And also should be set and forget. You’ll never have to touch the WiFi system again, unless upgrading firmware or adding/changing to it. 710 is preferred over the 610 I'm guessing. Would love to get the r750s, but way too expensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lippavisual Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 I’ve only ever used the 7xx series for large auditoriums or stadiums. 6xx series for most projects. 3xx series for high density. Hxxx series is great for larger desk offices, hotel rooms or dedicated spaces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lippavisual Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 In other words, 610 should do you just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindedc1 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 The 710 gives you multi-user mimo up and down. Unlikely you will see much benefit from that if any. The 610 gives you 3x3:3 antenna arrangement which is about best case for a nice laptop so it's an excellent choice. There is also a nice phone app that goes with Unleashed...easy to check and see if something or someone is on or AP status etc..highly recommended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejn1 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 4 hours ago, rf9000 said: Nevermind, looks like they are sold out. So, the consensus that I'm gathering here is that Ruckus is the best in anyone's mind. Do you think the best solution would be to get Ruckus 610 or 710 models and have them flashed to the unleashed software? Yes, price diff is not that great used so personally I would go with the 710 but as others have said, not critical to do for your application. In my home I have 2 R650, 1 R720, and 1 R610. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rf9000 Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share Posted February 25, 2021 4 hours ago, lippavisual said: In other words, 610 should do you just fine. But the 710 "would" be better than the 610, right? Its confusing in some sense. I was strongly considering the Unifi HD too and this is 4x4. I feel if I went with the 610 which is 3x3, wouldnt that be a lesser model? I do like the looks a bot more of the Unifi HD, but all on here seem to agree that the best is Ruckus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejn1 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 5 hours ago, rf9000 said: Where is this for sale at? It’s a Beta product so I would wait the 2-3 months to get it when in general release status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lippavisual Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, rf9000 said: But the 710 "would" be better than the 610, right? Its confusing in some sense. I was strongly considering the Unifi HD too and this is 4x4. I feel if I went with the 610 which is 3x3, wouldnt that be a lesser model? I do like the looks a bot more of the Unifi HD, but all on here seem to agree that the best is Ruckus? You’re doing a multi-AP project. 3x3 is plenty suitable for residential and even most commercial projects. if you don’t like the looks of the AP: https://oberoninc.com/products/1018-00/ JR2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rf9000 Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share Posted February 25, 2021 9 minutes ago, ejn1 said: Yes, price diff is not that great used so personally I would go with the 710 but as others have said, not critical to do for your application. In my home I have 2 R650, 1 R720, and 1 R610. Yes, but how many different networks pop up when you search for Wifi signals? Your R650s are WIFI 6, so how does that separate itself from the rest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lippavisual Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, rf9000 said: Yes, but how many different networks pop up when you search for Wifi signals? Your R650s are WIFI 6, so how does that separate itself from the rest? Only the ones you configure to have. You don’t need to separate the SSID’s for ruckus for different bands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rf9000 Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share Posted February 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, lippavisual said: Only the ones you configure to have. You don’t need to separate the SSID’s for ruckus for different bands. You mean you dont need separate SSIDs for different Ruckus models? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejn1 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 18 minutes ago, rf9000 said: Yes, but how many different networks pop up when you search for Wifi signals? Your R650s are WIFI 6, so how does that separate itself from the rest? No, if the device is Wifi6 on the receiving end, then it will connect at Wifi6. Only a few will, like modern Iphones or Ipads... I have 2 SSID's setup, one 2G and one 5G. You can do one if you prefer that but I like to easily see the 2 different bands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejn1 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 5 hours ago, rf9000 said: You mean you dont need separate SSIDs for different Ruckus models? No. This is what the Ruckus Unleashed controller software manages.... It will connect the device to the closest, strongest, best AP... If im close to an R610 and that signal is better than a farther away R650, then the device will connect to the R610 on an AC band as it is better than a farther away wifi6 AP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTMatthew Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 If the best access point from a technological standpoint comes with a price tag that influences your deployment, it's no longer the best access point. If your budget can accommodate 610s you'll have a hell of a system. Not sure going to the 7 series in a residential application would be meaningful. It's not a perfect analogy, but your car's top speed being 210 or 260 probably doesn't matter to your commute. A lot of these APs we're discussing have use cases for SMB applications and conditions we'd never be able to recreate in a private home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rf9000 Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share Posted February 25, 2021 27 minutes ago, ejn1 said: No, if the device is Wifi6 on the receiving end, then it will connect at Wifi6. Only a few will, like modern Iphones or Ipads... I have 2 SSID's setup, one 2G and one 5G. You can do one if you prefer that but I like to easily see the 2 different bands. Does anyone have instructions on how to flash these to the best version of the Unleashed software? I heard some of the versions had trouble with speeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejn1 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 32 minutes ago, rf9000 said: Does anyone have instructions on how to flash these to the best version of the Unleashed software? I heard some of the versions had trouble with speeds. Just buy one on Ebay already flashed to Unleashed... There should be plenty of the R610s, the R710s be a little less numerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejn1 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 41 minutes ago, CTMatthew said: If the best access point from a technological standpoint comes with a price tag that influences your deployment, it's no longer the best access point. If your budget can accommodate 610s you'll have a hell of a system. Not sure going to the 7 series in a residential application would be meaningful. It's not a perfect analogy, but your car's top speed being 210 or 260 probably doesn't matter to your commute. A lot of these APs we're discussing have use cases for SMB applications and conditions we'd never be able to recreate in a private home. People buy Ferrari's who live in Central London where the average speed is less than 20 mph :). Just saying not many folks have the discipline to follow this approach myself included Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanDad Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 35 minutes ago, ejn1 said: People buy Ferrari's who live in Central London where the average speed is less than 20 mph 7.1 mph to be precise. Still waiting for a WAP that is as beautiful as a Ferrari 250LM, but your point is well made. ejn1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejn1 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 6 hours ago, lippavisual said: if you don’t like the looks of the AP: https://oberoninc.com/products/1018-00/ Those are pretty cool! Are these pricey? Feel free to PM me the cost if you are a dealer. This may solve a challenge I have with visual / placement in my master bedroom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rf9000 Posted February 26, 2021 Author Share Posted February 26, 2021 15 hours ago, ejn1 said: Just buy one on Ebay already flashed to Unleashed... There should be plenty of the R610s, the R710s be a little less numerous. If running five APs, do I need a controller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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