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Certainly not for everyone.  I get that.  But if you take the population that is spending six figures on home automation / home theater / computer control of their nightlights, you’re going to find a lot more Vision Pro users in there than in the general population.  Not here to evalgelize— but, as an aside, you might want to get a demo— you might be surprised.  A couple of guys from my C4 dealer team were here a few weeks ago and I gave them demos.  One was “meh” but the other guy was like profoundly impressed.  Anyway, the point of the post is to gently prod/beg C4 to please undo their opt-out so we can use the existing app.  All the while knowing that this is a niche thing.

@eggzlot when you live in a virtual world you still need to control the real world 😆

Any update?  I’m happy to test current iPad app via Test Flight.  Control4 is one of the only things I can’t easily use with Vision Pro, and actual reality is just so tiresome….

We chosen not to have the app be available until we we are able to test compatibility and the experience. You can expect the app to become available once the review and testing process has been completed.  This is the same approach that was taken for supporting iPadOS apps on MacOS with Apple Silicon chips (M1, etc).

Yeah.  I am am one of those idiots who bought one Day One.  Love it so far.
While I do not expect Control4 to do a Vision Pro native app right away (if ever), it would be awesome if they would simpl make the iPad app available for download and use in compatibility mode.  From my understanding, developers need to “Opt-Out” affirmatively for their apps to *NOT* show up in App Store for Vision Pro, so looks like they either opted-out or perhaps they flagged app as being targeted for an older version of iOS (and not current versions).
Anyway, I hope someone at Control4 will get around to ticking the right boxes— no actual work required.  Hopefully they are just waiting to test the stability in compatibility mode before ticking the boxes (I’m happy to test it for them). 
As an aside, you can place persistent, spatially-anchored buttons around your house and make them kick-off Apple “Shortcut” scripts by just looking/pinching  which can, among other things, control C4 devices (assuming you have otherwise linked Homekit and C4).  This circuitous approach is very kludgy/janky/beta for now, but still fun.

Radon is indeed big in the states especially here in New England - being able to get regular readings and see/program those in C4 is a great thing!

What a great driver! I have been eyeing these devices for a while but didn’t realize they had a WiFi one - will be picking up a couple and a couple instances of this driver for two projects. Thank you @alanchow and team you guys are constantly enabling great new integrations!

Overview
Chowmain releases Airthings driver for Control4. Established in 2008, Airthings is a global tech company led by a team of experienced scientists, engineers, developers and visionaries, with a common goal: to educate on the prevalence of radon, as well as other indoor air contaminants, and develop accessible technology solutions to help people stay healthy.
The Airthings driver for Control4 provides integration to Airthings View Plus, Wave Mini and Wave Radon products to allow monitoring and automation of air quality in a home.
Monitored measurements include
Radon PM 2.5 CO2 Humidity Temperature TVOC Pressure Mold Note measurements are model specific so please verify the model selected monitors the measurements you are interested in. These measurements can be viewed on Control4's touchscreens and mobile applications via a custom web view. A link on the web view will take you through to the Airthings dashboard for historical and other data.
On top of this integrators can add additional automation via built-in push and email notifications along with program automation macros when measurements reach specified levels. This ensures that a home owner is informed when unhealthy air is detected and the home is purified/ventilated via Control4.
Driver Features
View Plus Radon PM 2.5 CO2 Humidity Temperature TVOC Pressure Wave Mini Humidity Temperature TVOC Mold Wave Radon Temperature Humidity Radon Graphical UI for viewing live device data on Control4 touchscreens and mobile applications with description of health risks Temperature and Humidity bindings available for the Control4 Temperature Display (OS 2.10+) driver Ability to login to the Airthings Dashboard to view history from the Control4 app / Touchscreens via the driver's Webview Variables for all available data from each device Events for various levels allow automation of air purification and ventilation. Automatic Push and Email Notifications for all available measurements (requires 4sight) warns customers of potentially hazardous health risks. FAQ
Why is this product so exciting?
This product allows a home owner to monitor and automate air quality in their home including radon, PM2.5, CO2, Humidity, Temperature, TVOC, Mold and Pressure.
Measurements are exposed to Control4 and allow Control4 to automate purification and ventilation of the home.
What hardware will this work on?
The following devices are currently supported:
View Plus Wave Mini Wave Radon Why do I need to login to the Airthings Dashboard every time I open the webview?
The Airthings Dashboard requires a login to access the data. This is a security feature of the Airthings Dashboard. Control4's UI doesn't keep a history of browsing activity for webview drivers. As a result any authentication data is lost when the webview is closed.
What is Radon?
Radon is an invisible gas formed in the Earth’s crust. It surrounds every one of us as part of the air we breathe.
High levels over long periods of time are the issue. By monitoring radon long term, you can be alerted when levels are high and make small changes to improve the air you breathe.
What are VOCs?
Volatile Organic Compounds (VOCs) are a combination of gases and odors emitted from many different toxins and chemicals found in everyday products such as, candles, fragrances, cooking fumes, new furniture, cleaning products, paints and varnishes.
What is PM2.5?
PM2.5 refers to atmospheric particulate matter (PM) that have a diameter of less than 2.5 micrometers, which is about 3% the diameter of a human hair. Commonly found in smoke and haze, these particles can be inhaled and cause serious health issues.
What is CO2?
Carbon dioxide (CO2) is a colorless, odorless gas that is a by-product of combustion. It is a natural component of air, but when levels are too high, it can cause health problems.
What is Mold?
Mold is a microscopic fungus that helps nature decompose dead organic material. Both mold and mildew are different types of fungus, but mold is usually shades of black, blue, red, and green, whereas mildew is white.
What is Pressure?
Atmospheric pressure is commonly measured with a barometer and is an indicator of weather. In a barometer, a column of mercury in a glass tube rises or falls as the weight of the atmosphere changes. Meteorologists describe the atmospheric pressure by how high the mercury rises. When a low-pressure system moves into an area, it usually leads to cloudiness, wind, and precipitation. High-pressure systems usually lead to fair, calm weather.
Do you offer any other cool drivers?
Control4 is a major part of our business. We develop new drivers all the time. You can see all of our drivers on our website (http://www.chowmainsoft.com). Sign up to our newsletter to get notified when new drivers out.
I want to try this driver out before buying it?
All Chowmain drivers for Control4 come with a 90 day trial.
Where can i find out more?
You can find out more about the driver from the following link.
Driver Product Page
 

They have a Shelly Plus H&T model now.. Uses E-Ink for display: https://www.shelly.cloud/en/products/shop/shelly-plus-h-and-t . Generation 2 device. 

With Tidal merging its 2 paid for tiers, will users who were on the lower tier and will now gain access to high definition audio have to change anything on the Control4 side of things or will the improved audio simply be heard from 10 April onwards?

Many thanks Darin & other responders for getting me back in business!

I just heard release day was moved to next week on Tuesday (2/27/2024), but everything is signed off so I would expect it to be live that day and shouldn't be any additional delays.  

@Cranky Oldman I just DM'd you the info to get the beta version, I believe it matches what will be the final release.
 
 

new release is out including new OS version

3.4.1.705920 is the GA release..if you are running that, you are updated

Apologies for reviving an old thread. Just thought I'd mention this in a place where people interested in this topic would see it. In the latest app update we've added the option to turn off the wallpaper preview for rooms. Should be helpful for properties that don't have many room unique wallpapers. You'll find it as the 2nd row in Preferences.

Yes, cool. I like what Unifi has done with their recent Protect update.

Thanks.  It's fun, but not terribly practical yet as the tech is still developing.  For instance you can tell it to give you license plate numbers, but it tends to hallucinate and give fake ones, even if you tell it "Provide a license plate number but only if you are SURE."  But you can see where it's going to be very cool (and intrusive). The one practical use i've found is that i've got it watching the backyard of an AirBNB to tell me if it spots two or more dogs (only one is allowed).  It's pretty good at that.

sounds like the implementation may have had issues like you mentioned which is the case I had with C4 with prior 2 integrators before the current one that has worked to fix many control4 issues over last 4.5 years.  The voice portion has greatly improved since we originally installed Micros in 2020.  In our case we use voice commands on average 50-75 times per day based on my logs. Based upon a spot check of the data in my Portal we have about a 90-95% first time quality in the microphone on the device picking up the request whether it be scene triggering, discrete single device commands, compound device commands, and GPT style voice commands.  I think Josh's foray into more control is a natural evolution and a means to grow revenue beyond a single product/service offering like any business in this era and even a push by any VC's that are funding the capital investments.  The UI experience has been much better based upon myself, wife, kids, and guests so the consensus wins here! 

Without question, the network chipset in the Micros is finicky (versus flakey).  I tell my clients to turn off the "wake Beep" on each Micro as it seems to work 100x better in catching the commands.  Once that's done, I never have issue with Josh understanding a command, nor have I gotten negative feedback regarding not understanding (with the "wake beep" set to off in each micro).  It's not listening for that split second and sometimes causes issues with the command.

Block them out of spite?  What good would it do?  The only path to blocking them would be if Control4 has a voice product up their sleeve.  I must admit that during litigation, releasing touchsceens and more remotes seems a big effU.

G'day Guys,
We've pushed an updated driver today for this as well
1. Even more performance works to reduce system latency overall. Especially with Debugging enabled, worst-case benchmarks showed a CPU processing time drop from 6.6s to 0.06s  for 10000 log entries (28x-100x speedup). Other benchmarks showed a 9-22ms drop in time for certain operations (which in some circumstances may have appeared to be a CPU spike).
2. Scenes will work correctly now on CCT Only Govee lights
3. You can now see diagnostics for ALL Govee drivers in one click
4. Huge new Diagnostics tools, which not only identify more potential issues with our drivers, but, also if your Control4 Controller might be experiencing certain issues
Andy

NOOOOOOO they sure didn't! They could work on powerstealing using battery to bridge voltage drops. Powerstealing support however was VERY dependant on the heating unit and it was dropped as a truly 'advertised' method early on.
 
In fact the NEW thermostats ARE fully capable of running on battery only. That said, I don't recommend it. I don't like to rely on batteries to ensure a house doesn't freeze. Silly maybe but there it is.
@lippavisual has the right method.
 

It can yes, but as @RAV more or less indicated, how to wire it can be more complex than a normal relay as a T-Stat is assumed to be powered from the same furnace providing the power to go across the relay of R - W (or R - Y for cool).
So either an isolation unit is needed if that relay isn't the same 24vAC (rare enough) - OR only power the T-Stat and use a controlled relay for control plus programming.
I strongly suggest using an isolation unit as it maintaince the T-Stat's ability to fully function as a stand alone device. I've only in rare occasions done it via a controlled relay and then only for secondary heating control, not a house/building's main heat.
 
Basic way of isolation using standard relays (this would still fully leave the t-stat working as a stand-alone item is system were down) as was detailed with the original t-stat (and still works though the C/TS is now just a C connection):
 

@Time2Jet I also live in the Northeast USA and have encountered this issue.  Here is my suggestion based, of course, on the assumption that you / end user do not want to open walls and want to minimize revisions to the wallboard.
1. In the boiler room, identify the hydronic zone controllers (1 for each zone of heating).  These are very likely Honeywell branded.  These devices will have 4 wires (2 black, 2 red).  One set goes to the boiler, the other set (most likely red) will be connected to a wire going to the 2 wire thermostat.  Leave the set of wires going into the boiler alone.
2. Disconnect the wires going to the thermostat.  Connect these to a relay (see Note A, below).  I used Functional devices model RIBRL1S because these are DIN rail mounted, have a manual override, and an indicator light so you can visually determine when the relay is on (helps with troubleshooting).  Wire each relay to either a C4-IOX (Control4 IO Extender) or a Shelly device (I prefer hardwired).  Note that RIBRL1S requires 12vdc.  You can get a DIN rail mounted step down transformer (120vac to 12vdc).  I also place a LED panel light on the transformer so I can easily confirm that the 12vdc power is indeed on (helps with any troubleshooting). 
3. You will now be able to control each zone on the heating system using the relays and therefore via Control4.  I created a separate "room" called HVAC and used a custom icon for each zone of heat (one icon for ON and one icon for OFF).  Pressing the custom icon turns the heat zone on (closes the relay) and displays the ON icon.  Pressing again toggles the sequence.
4. Now, we connect the thermostats because we have no intention of manually controlling the heat.  Remove all of the as-built thermostats and expose the as-built 2 wires which run from each thermostat location to the boiler room.  Use a meter and ensure that a) no power is running through the wires (remember you disconnected these in step 2) and b) you have affirmatively determined that each of the wires is correctly identified as the wire running from the thermostat location to the boiler room.
5) Install one unit of C4-THERM to replace each as-built thermostat.  Set the C4-THERM to "powered" and not "power stealing" (there is a physical switch that needs to be set).  Connect one of the wires to common (usually white) and the other wire (usually red) to 24vac on the back of the C4-THERM.  Also put 4 "AA" batteries in each C4-THERM.
6) Supply the as-built 2-wire cable starting from each of the thermostat locations and terminating in the boiler room with 24vac.  You can get a DIN rail mounted transformer (step down 120vac to 24vac) and position on the same DIN rail as the relays in step 2 (looks nice).  I also place a LED panel light on the transformer so I can easily confirm that the 24vac power is indeed on (helps with any troubleshooting).  Make certain to get sufficient amps to power all of the C4-THERM units.
7) At this point, all of your C4-THERM should be powered and functioning.  Follow the instructions in Composer Pro to register each on the Zigbee wireless network.
8.) Using programming in Composer Pro / HE, you are going to create an action for each of the C-THERM devices (WHEN any HEAT CALL --> turn on (close) ZONE RELAY).  And, of course: WHEN heat call OFF --> turn off (open) ZONE RELAY.  The thermostat driver will provide the Navigator GUI with scheduling and other virtual thermostat features for each zone.
9) here is the best part.  Many older houses in NE have central air that used a separate thermostat.  You can now use programming to provide the homeowner with one single thermostat for both heating and cooling using the same logic as above.
I hope the above provides a good starting point.  The usual caveats and disclaimers apply: licensed electricians for line voltage, HVAC specialists if needed.  I also would make certain that the gauge of the as-built wire is rated to carry 24vac.  Given that thermostat systems use 24vac as a standard, I strongly suspect that the as-built wire will be sufficient.  That said, better to check and verify than to assume.
Reach out with any questions of follow-ups.
 
Note A: Honeywell seems to have a dominant market share for the hydronic zone controllers.  Most of these devices call for heat from the boiler when 24VAC is supplied to the 2 red wires.  Thermostats simply act as switchs.  Our goal here is to substitute the relay for the thermostat.  Therefore, direct 24VAC to the common on the relay and then normally open (NO) to one leg of the hydronic zone controller.  Wire the other leg of the hydronic zone controller back to the 24VAC supply.  Make certain that your version of the hydronic zone controllers requires external power before wiring.  Some versions (older) were self-powered.

Confirmed its an issue