-defunct- Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 That driver requires 2.10.6 or newer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, Dunamivora said: That driver requires 2.10.6 or newer. and an EA controller -defunct- 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBLV Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Thanks, working on setting it up now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant0830 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Any AppleTV driver recommendations for HC800 as director with AppleTV in a Leaf HDMI matrix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-defunct- Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 41 minutes ago, grant0830 said: Any AppleTV driver recommendations for HC800 as director with AppleTV in a Leaf HDMI matrix. Either upgrade to an EA5 or CA10 and use the new IP driver (also update to 2.10.6 or newer), or use an IR driver. Pretty much the only options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anish Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 5 hours ago, Dunamivora said: Yes, Apple Bridge driver and Apple TV 4/4k driver. That’s the one I’m having an issue with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-defunct- Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 17 minutes ago, Anish said: That’s the one I’m having an issue with Have you tried hitting the refresh action on the Apple Bridge driver in Composer HE? Or had your dealer set up a button to program the refresh? I would also check the Apple Bridge and Apple TV drivers are the latest. Updating the drivers fixed the no control issues on a lot of systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiley Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 On 9/24/2019 at 10:22 PM, pinkoos said: Just upgraded all four of our 4K Apple TVs and realized that I can no longer control the Apple TV with my Control4 remote I guess whatever tvOS 13's changes are, one of them must be changes in remote commands or something like that Anybody have any idea what needs to be done in order to get functionality back to my Control4 remotes? Something I can possibly do via Composer HE? Or will I need to get my dealer involved (which may take a while before he can get to it)? EDIT: Just tested the Control4 app on my iPhone and that, too, no longer works to control the Apple TV Will have to resort back to the original Apple TV remote until this gets figured out Thanks My dealer informed me that the new 'official' apple TV 4K ip driver wont work on my HC800 so have reverted to the IR driver. At least the sleep works now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 2 hours ago, wiley said: My dealer informed me that the new 'official' apple TV 4K ip driver wont work on my HC800 so have reverted to the IR driver. At least the sleep works now. correct, HC series controllers are too old for the new driver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiley Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, msgreenf said: correct, HC series controllers are too old for the new driver I suspect they have the processing power...I cant think of a technical reason why they cannot support the driver other than the fact that either apple or C4 cant be bothered writing a driver for the HC series! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, wiley said: I suspect they have the processing power...I cant think of a technical reason why they cannot support the driver other than the fact that either apple or C4 cant be bothered writing a driver for the HC series! Cause you don't know the technical details - they have different OS and processing architectures and Control4 didn't write it for the older architecture.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiley Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, msgreenf said: Cause you don't know the technical details - they have different OS and processing architectures and Control4 didn't write it for the older architecture.... Actually I did know about the move from flash to Android and have a hardware engineering and software background so please don't make assumptions : - ) My point was that the HC800 could run a driver for this as ip drivers used to work on the HC series for the apple TV 4K - this is a choice by the driver author, not a technical constraint of the HC800. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, wiley said: Actually I did know about the move from flash to Android and have a hardware engineering and software background so please don't make assumptions : - ) My point was that the HC800 could run a driver for this as ip drivers used to work on the HC series for the apple TV 4K - this is a choice by the driver author, not a technical constraint of the HC800. Don't make assumptions that it has anything to do with Flash to android. It was from a 32 bit to a 64 bit os. thegreatheed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 and nothing says you have to use the latest AppleTV OS... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 HC800 shipped on 1/30/2012 - That is a good run. The iphone 4s was released Oct 2011. how far can that be upgraded? EA's started shipping 1/26/16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 The IR driver is fine, very fine BTW you will not miss anything from the IP version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiley Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 33 minutes ago, msgreenf said: HC800 shipped on 1/30/2012 - That is a good run. The iphone 4s was released Oct 2011. how far can that be upgraded? EA's started shipping 1/26/16. OK so its a commercial decision, likely not a technical one. Of course no platform lasts forever so an update to EA or whatever comes after is a certainty. The IR solution works so all good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 It's 64 vs 32 bit os. Note I don't work or speak for control4 just sharing what I am told Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiley Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, msgreenf said: It's 64 vs 32 bit os. Note I don't work or speak for control4 just sharing what I am told OK but surely is we had an IP driver (albeit not certified) on a 32 bit OS then not a huge stretch to expect it could be rewritten for a 64 bit one. Just wondering what restrictions would exist on a 64 bit platform that didnt exist on a 32 bit one. Probably diminishing returns on this thread but am genuinely interested. There must have been many other drivers that would need to be ported to the new 64 bit architecture as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-defunct- Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, wiley said: Actually I did know about the move from flash to Android and have a hardware engineering and software background so please don't make assumptions : - ) My point was that the HC800 could run a driver for this as ip drivers used to work on the HC series for the apple TV 4K - this is a choice by the driver author, not a technical constraint of the HC800. HC800 cannot run the required software that the EAs and the CA10 can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-defunct- Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 27 minutes ago, msgreenf said: It's 64 vs 32 bit os. Note I don't work or speak for control4 just sharing what I am told All systems are 32 bit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 6 hours ago, wiley said: this is a choice by the driver author No this was choice by the API author -defunct- 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EverAction Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 11 minutes ago, Cyknight said: No this was choice by the API author It still baffles me how there is even a discussion around this. Apple made the requirements for the API, Control4 is just following their lead. IIRC Savant and Crestron are also dealing with the same exact issue, also going the IR route. Apple has singlehandedly created this issue (many times over I may add). thegreatheed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Just now, EverAction said: It still baffles me how there is even a discussion around this. Apple made the requirements for the API, Control4 is just following their lead. IIRC Savant and Crestron are also dealing with the same exact issue, also going the IR route. Apple has singlehandedly created this issue (many times over I may add). Cause Apple is perfect! They are the Perfect tech company - no bugs, no problems (how many releases of iOS 13 already)? thegreatheed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EverAction Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 17 minutes ago, msgreenf said: Cause Apple is perfect! They are the Perfect tech company - no bugs, no problems (how many releases of iOS 13 already)? Let's not embellish too much. Their walled garden is the issue here, not so much bugs. Granted iOS 13 has been a bit bumpy, but we were due for that considering how iOS 12 focused on tightening things up and 13's focus is adding features. Anyways I digress. Instead of providing a method of control outside of their walled garden, their idea of using HomeBridge as a proxy into the garden has quite obviously not gone well. Will it get fixed at some point, hopefully. But IMO, the damage has been done with integrating Apple stuff a long time ago. Apple diehards don't care about the shortcomings in regards to integration, but they are losing the fringe users. msgreenf and therockhr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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