Chris C Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Hi, Building a new house and our doors are all using multi-point locks. I am having trouble finding a smart lock solution for multi-point locks. Does anyone know of a satisfactory solution? If I can't find a smart lock can I utilize some type of pin or door strike to give me keyless entry? Our previous house had keyless entry and I don't know that I can go back now. Thanks in advance. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon2828 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 I've researched extensively. There are a couple of companies (mostly from Europe) that have an August lookalike lock that will work with some mortise style locks, but nothing I could find for multi-point (which is sort of a hybrid of mortise). I've had multi-point locks in the past and cannot imagine any electric smart lock (consumer grade) that would even have the torque to turn one, those can barely turn a single cylinder deadbolt when it is perfectly lubricated and aligned. Chris C 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Adams Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 I believe i saw one from Yale integrated to Control4 but yes mostly used and available in UK and by UK C4 dealers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdo21 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 I used the multipoint lock below in a front door and also installed an ekey fingerprint reader (and a DS2). The ekey system is connected to the lock, there is an ekey driver for Control4 and I also have my EA5 connected to the lock. This allows the following: 1) family to unlock the door with their finger 2) we have an unlock button in C4 which gives us the ability to unlock the door from a touchscreen/phone when someone rings the DS2 3) trigger other C4 events from ekey (e.g. notifications when someone comes home or if someone uses a specific finger on the fingerprint reader, it opens the garage door, etc.) Lock: https://www.abloy.com/en/abloy/abloycom/products/product-catalogue/electric-locks/europrofile-range-abloy-certa-motor-locks/small-business/electric-lock-mp518/ ekey: https://www.ekey.net/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 48 minutes ago, bdo21 said: I used the multipoint lock below in a front door and also installed an ekey fingerprint reader (and a DS2). The ekey system is connected to the lock, there is an ekey driver for Control4 and I also have my EA5 connected to the lock. This allows the following: 1) family to unlock the door with their finger 2) we have an unlock button in C4 which gives us the ability to unlock the door from a touchscreen/phone when someone rings the DS2 3) trigger other C4 events from ekey (e.g. notifications when someone comes home or if someone uses a specific finger on the fingerprint reader, it opens the garage door, etc.) Lock: https://www.abloy.com/en/abloy/abloycom/products/product-catalogue/electric-locks/europrofile-range-abloy-certa-motor-locks/small-business/electric-lock-mp518/ ekey: https://www.ekey.net/ The ablot link doesn’t work, technically speaking you must have some sort of a controller tied up to the EA5, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdo21 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Sorry - this is the updated version of the lock: https://www.abloy.co.uk/en/abloy/abloy-co-uk/products-mpc/electric-locks/motor-locks/standard-stile/mp520-push--pull-function-multipoint-lock-case-for-solid-doors/The lock just takes an electrical pulse to unlock so both the relay output of the ekey system and the EA5 can send an electrical pulse down the same cable to the lock. Chris C 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 1 hour ago, bdo21 said: Sorry - this is the updated version of the lock: https://www.abloy.co.uk/en/abloy/abloy-co-uk/products-mpc/electric-locks/motor-locks/standard-stile/mp520-push--pull-function-multipoint-lock-case-for-solid-doors/ The lock just takes an electrical pulse to unlock so both the relay output of the ekey system and the EA5 can send an electrical pulse down the same cable to the lock. So all you need is a relay connection to EA5, this is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris C Posted May 1, 2020 Author Share Posted May 1, 2020 Thanks everyone for the replies. The solution @bdo21 has mentioned sounds promising. I going to dig into this a little more. My dealer also mentioned using some type of PIN solution that would be opened closed through an electrical charge. Sounds more like a commercial application but he said it was very discrete and would not be noticeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J to the D Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 I wanted this solution so went with Yale as my dealer had this integrated in their demo room. It turned out Yale updated their locks and removed the ability to have pin code entry. The new multipoint lock is now the Conexis L1. Unfortunately this model is not supported with Control4 and I am yet to find a way to get it to work. Very frustrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris C Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 What are some other options for controlled access and C4 in a residential install? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Beyond the default locks, and a handful of 3rd party drivers (August locks for one, which is free) there's always the option of using any lock that can be controlled via a relay. Beyond that, 3rd party 'hubs' that can control other locks are available too. Wink (but they're dying and now charging monthly) Vivint (but it's Vivint) Vera (a long time trouble child though) Somne security system can be intragrated with lock control as well (not particularly familiar so can't comment) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERDrPC Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 It's 2024 - any updates for a c4 multi-point lock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 12 hours ago, ERDrPC said: It's 2024 - any updates for a c4 multi-point lock? Not really that I'm aware of. There's little out there for smart multipoint locks to begin with. If there's a zwave one then it could get integrated (provided you have a Core controller) but I've been monitoring it to a degree and there's just not much out there to begin with, let alone something that is currently able to integrate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERDrPC Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Hoppe did one with c4 years ago https://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/forums/viewpost.cgi?1328279 I think this is the only way...$$$$$ though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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